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        09-02-2010, 07:55 AM
      #11
    Showing
    Don't call them. Just walk into the field quietly, put a halter on and lead him back in. BUT you have to do it every day or he'll probably get back to his habit. Rope halter is just fine, BTW.
         
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        09-02-2010, 11:21 AM
      #12
    Foal
    I don't have my horses on lead when they wait on dinner, they follow me to the feed buckets and they stand at their buckets and wait quietly till I tell them they can eat,,, I just find horses can get a little hyped up and pushy at dinner time and I want mine to know that I feed them and say when they can eat... they are now very calm when it comes to feeding time...and they talk to me the whole time ( I love the nickers they give me )
         
        09-02-2010, 11:35 AM
      #13
    Started
    I agree with New_Image... mostly. A good hearty smack and a shout here and there is perfectly fine... but I wouldn't want to hit the horse in the head for fear of getting him somewhere sensitive like his nose, ear or *gasp* eye *shudder*. I'd aim for his chest/shoulder.

    Sometimes the horse needs a good dose of "whoa she can be scary" before they figure out that they need to mind their manners so that you don't turn scary on them. As New_Image pointed out, you don't see boss mare leading the other horses with a halter/lead so they'll be good. You hear her squeal (our shout), see her pin her ears (our large, direct approach), and if necessary, deliver a kick or a bite (our smack with the whip).
         
        09-02-2010, 11:37 AM
      #14
    Foal
    Be careful when you stand in a charging horses way with or without a whip, chances are he will turn back, but he just may put his head down and try to knock you over,,, I would work with him away from where he eats with waiting for something he really wants. And maybe when he comes charging in the barn for grain, have his bucket empty and make him wait for you to give him his feed while he waits nicely... just a thought....
         
        09-02-2010, 11:42 AM
      #15
    Foal
    And the lead mare will make lesser horses wait their turn for food.......and if you need a lead for more control at first, there is nothing wrong with that, we have these tools for a reason...
         
        09-02-2010, 11:44 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    I think you need to give up calling them for dinner. IF he has been trained to come for nice food he will come as fast as he can.
    I would call them up but SHUT the door so they can't get in then lead in each horse one by one. GEt them to do a few steps of ground work eg back or over and make them wait for dinner you need to stop making dinner time the most exciting time on the day make them work for it.
    I had a very pushy oushy pony who would step over or through you to get dinner we used a whistle to bring everyone to the gate then its one by one into stables with this little pony he had to wait until he stopped wrecking my head to come in then he was made back up and move away from the pressure I was applying when I brought him into the stable I removed the leadrope but if he went to eat whilst I was in the stable I made a rucus and he stepped back until I got out of the stable.
    Again you are head of herd he eats with your position if he oushes you work his ass off in the stable it only takes a few days before they get the idea
         
        09-02-2010, 11:53 AM
      #17
    Showing
    You've not established yourself as herd leader. Until you do that, you're going to have to do some extra work and bring them in one at a time.

    My 3 are let out of the front paddock into the pasture at night. The barn is in said pasture, and they're fed separately in their stalls.

    They're allowed to mill about and have scuffles among themselves, but when I show up there will be NO crowding, getting in my face, or acting like heathens.

    JJ gets fed first, and the other two are to stay away while I'm walking him and his dinner to his stall.

    Mack goes in second, and Casper hangs back until I put his feed in his stall.

    Establish yourself as the alpha, and you won't have these problems. What I'm seeing is someone the horses don't respect, and who has no control over their actions.

    "Charging in" doesn't happen at my barn. It's just not acceptable.
         
        09-02-2010, 12:43 PM
      #18
    Showing
    Folks, let me say it really depends on the barn. Not saying it's a case with OP of course. The barn I kept Jemma first couple of weeks (before we run away from there) 15(!) horses (out of like 40 total) charged you at the gate when you wanted to bring one horse in (if you called that horse). Whips, screams, etc. did NOT help - too many of them (and I've seen number of times they broke through the gate knocking the person at the gate down in mud and the whole crowd just run to the feed bins). THAT was very scary. So the best way was to walk in to the field, and quietly take the horse you need out.

    Now when you have just 2 - 5 horses (especially with established alpha) it's much easier to be in charge and handle the situation.
         
        09-02-2010, 12:50 PM
      #19
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
    Now when you have just 2 - 5 horses (especially with established alpha) it's much easier to be in charge and handle the situation.
    True.

    But if her horse is in a 20 plus herd, then there should be no mass exodus at feeding time. She should go get her own horse and make him behave.
         
        09-02-2010, 12:56 PM
      #20
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    True.

    But if her horse is in a 20 plus herd, then there should be no mass exodus at feeding time. She should go get her own horse and make him behave.
    You are absolutely right.

    BTW, my horses went crazy when they saw me coming with buckets when I just moved them to my place. Took me about month or so to teach them to behave (not just for me, but for my mom as well). But I think it had a lot to do with the fact that they realized the food not going to go away (like it possibly happened at the boarding farm on regular basis), so they mellowed a lot after that.
         

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