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    06-24-2012, 10:39 PM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Black Beauty 94    
Yes, it is true. Yes, that is true about bits and spurs.
Did you guys actually smack yourself hard, like some people do to horses, I was free lounging and used a whip to get him to move around, and I hit myself and it burned!
I have hit myself good and hard (probably harder than I have ever hit my horse) on my bare leg, and I did not find it to be a painful experience. Perhaps a small sting like a mosquito bite at most. That's not to say that it isn't possible to cause pain with a whip, but my point is that I have experienced my whip in use on myself, the same way I would use it on a horse, and I am perfectly comfortable in the knowledge that I am not doing any harm.
     
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    06-24-2012, 10:40 PM
  #22
Showing
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Originally Posted by Black Beauty 94    
What was your post about? It was about whips?

That is just how I feel about it, people have the right to their opinion though.
It's more about his reaction with the whip than the actual whip itself. I use a whip sometimes when Sky feels like ignoring my leg (I have such weak legs lol..) and he's fine with it.

I do agree with Val that every tool you use, even reins, can become a weapon if that's your intent.
     
    06-24-2012, 10:41 PM
  #23
Foal
My husband is a trainer, has been professionally (Saddlebreds in particular) since 1987. I asked him one time about popping the whip and this is what he explained and showed me.

If you are hearing a loud 'POP', the horse is fine, it's the popper at the end making the noise and the trainer is driving it off of the noise. In our round pens you will hear a lot of popping, but if you watch, the whip doesn't touch the horse, just right next to them.

If someone is using a long whip and you are NOT hearing a pop, then they are whipping the animal. They are laying the length of the whip on the body and giving 'stress worms' or actually cutting the flesh. We rarely have that here, but he has had a couple that were just nasty that got a 'stress worm' or two across it's butt. Usually only takes one time to establish who is on top.

Now I am far from advocating whipping a horse, but we do use whips here daily. For you to really do harm, you have to be whaling the hell out of that whip. A lead horse does far, far worse for a far longer period of time when they want to.

Do I carry a whip when I ride? The answer is yes. The reason, sometimes we have dogs come up on us and one in particular is nasty, I use the whip to drive the dog off. My daughter carries a crop while on her ASB as an aid to changing gaits because he's kind of lazy at times.

Wow, looks like I've written a book. I guess what I'm trying to say is that whips have their place in the horse world as long as the person holding it has a good head on their shoulders and isn't out to 'teach a lesson'.
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    06-24-2012, 10:44 PM
  #24
Weanling
Me too, same with Willy.
Yes, it can
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
It's more about his reaction with the whip than the actual whip itself. I use a whip sometimes when Sky feels like ignoring my leg (I have such weak legs lol..) and he's fine with it.

I do agree with Val that every tool you use, even reins, can become a weapon if that's your intent.
     
    06-24-2012, 11:33 PM
  #25
Weanling
The problem with any conclusions we can draw from the OP's description is that, since she is new to horses (as she has stated) and unfamiliar with many things (as she also stated), her story has a WIDE range of interpretations. The horse could have been smacked several times for a single refusal, which would be bad. It could have been being argumentative and refusing several cues for which he was smacked a single time each, which would be more acceptable. There are myriad other scenarios between the two or it could have been something else all together. We don't know the particular tool, we don't know the horses history or temperament, and we don't know exactly what was being asked. Without this information, all we can do is poke around in the dark and end up arguing semantics.

No offense to OP or anyone else, but there it is as I see it.
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