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    09-25-2010, 07:52 PM
Using a breastcollar and a back cinch on green horses

I am backing a horse for a couple and I am doing it on their property. She is officially 'green broke'... mostly trustworthy (no offers to buck or rear) under saddle, but doesn't know it all yet. I went out there today and they'd had her saddled up with a breastcollar and a back cinch. I never used either of those things on her because, in my opinion, they can be irritating on a green horse. Not so much the breast collar, but couldn't the back cinch make them kick out if it tickles their belly? I don't want to add any unnecessary tack at this point, especially since she's green. Maybe later on when she's been exposed to more things.

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    09-25-2010, 07:57 PM
I always start my horses with full equipment, but it's always been simpler for me that way too. Why have to start them twice, possibly. If you work with the equipment from the beginning it will not bother them at all. It's always good to break in a horse with a breast collar and back girth because you never know what they will be used for down the road, and plain and simple your name will be on that horse as it's trainer for the rest of you life, and you don't want someone using one of those items and the horse freaking out, and then that person goes around saying that you didn't do a good job of training the horse.
    09-25-2010, 08:04 PM
Valid points.
    09-25-2010, 08:05 PM
Green Broke
I don't see a problem with it as it is better for the horse to be brought up with more then less. Yes the horse may buck or kick out if the back cinch touches them but that would just be at first but as it is used more they get used to it and will eventually be like its not even there.
    09-26-2010, 08:23 AM
I take a little extra care introducing a breastcollar and flank cinch. I've never started a baby from the ground up, but I've never purchased a horse that I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, was totally familiar with full western tack.

I would just make double-sure that the horse is very accepting of my hands rubbing the area where the equipment will sit, and of the tack in place and correctly adjusted at a standstill and on the lunge at all three gaits before mounting up. As far as a complete greenie, I think I would go the first ride or two with saddle only (the experience is going to be unfamiliar enough), and then add the "extras". Of course, that would just be my personal preference - there isn't any hard and fast reason why doing otherwise would be a bad idea. If you've done your homework, there shouldn't be any problem.
    09-26-2010, 09:34 AM
Green Broke
Considering that, IMO, a horse should be fully introduced to every peice of equipment before someone gets on, it shouldn't be an issue. Put it on on the ground, flap it around a little, lunge them a few circles, and you're good to go.
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    09-26-2010, 12:11 PM
I agree with above posts.
Put everything on that a person would use on their horse and 'let 'er buck'. The more they know the more they can handle later on.
    09-26-2010, 12:18 PM
I agree. I start all my youngsters with full tack. I consider the back cinch a necessity though. I have seen several guys ride horses with no back cinch and when they started bucking, the saddle and cowboy both ended up going off over the horse's head. A back cinch will prevent that.
    09-26-2010, 12:31 PM
My gelding was broke with everything. But, he has leaner sides and back and some withers, but the back cinch and breast collar are necessary for him becuase without, the saddle would slide right off his butt!
    09-26-2010, 01:31 PM
We broke ours with all the tack we planned on using from the get go including a crupper. We don't use back cinches, most of our saddles don't have them.
I got the most reaction out of the breast collar. I did teach a back cinch. It was just something else around the belly to her.

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