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        03-01-2010, 12:12 PM
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    I am talking about green horses, on their first few trail rides. Some horses are more excitable then others. I think riding all sorts of horses makes you a better rider, not just picking the good ones.
         
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        03-01-2010, 12:24 PM
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    Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
    RD, I believe you or Kevin said once you don't pick just any horse, but look for temperament and such before you buy.

    I have a screening process and it includes hobbling right off the bat. I first have to see the horse move, I have to feel something in my gut to tell me this one is worth it. I then ask permission to hobble. I want to see how the horse reacts to something strange. If he explodes or self distructs I wouln't waste my time on him. I then blindfold him again to get a reaction and again if he explodes I don't want him.
    I prefer stallions, unhandled other then being able to halter and certainly not broke. Stallions are bold, outgoing and if bought I am going to cut him the next day. I will not own a stallion but I want the boldness of one. I will not take this boldness out of him but encourage it on the trail and he will be running trail within the week, maybe in a day or two.
    I never never failed in my picks
         
        03-01-2010, 12:28 PM
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    Originally Posted by sillybunny11486    
    I am talking about green horses, on their first few trail rides. Some horses are more excitable then others. I think riding all sorts of horses makes you a better rider, not just picking the good ones.
    The only bad ones I ride belong to other people and they have me just to break the problem.. I use to spend my Sunday mornings riding rental horses, horses that demonstrated problems like barn sour, refusing to cross the river or run aways, even buckers. They didn't know me, I didn't know them but they got a suprised when they pulled their crap.
    People think of me as extremely soft handed , I am easy going, quiet, soft on the reins but I ride with a good bit, spurs and a knowledge that if the horse misbehaves he will be punished.
    They just need to be shown the light
         
        03-01-2010, 12:33 PM
      #14
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    I cluck for trot and kiss for canter, but other than that the only words my horses know are NO! Stoppit! And Woah! ... I became religious about 'woah' when I was super new. I froze up during an accident, and the horse didn't 'woah' when I said it. So everyone 'woah's when it's said. Plus, it's kept us out of lots of other crashes.

    I mean I talk to them, but those are the ones that are trained.
         
        03-01-2010, 12:48 PM
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    Trained
    I don't talk alot to my horses. I expect them to respond to my reins and legs not my voice. I may say whoa but not all the time and I never say trot or canter. When my seat changes my horse responds without the need for words. Sometimes there is alot going on and I don't have time to give verbal commands but mostly I think it just sounds silly.
         
        03-01-2010, 12:59 PM
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    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    I don't talk alot to my horses. I expect them to respond to my reins and legs not my voice. I may say whoa but not all the time and I never say trot or canter. When my seat changes my horse responds without the need for words. Sometimes there is alot going on and I don't have time to give verbal commands but mostly I think it just sounds silly.
    Kevin I rode bitless for more then 20 years and if anyone asked me last year or even last month if I would ever go bitless agian my answer would have been a firm NO. Ask me today and if is a MAYBE. I want to use the bit as little as possible. I want to use my butt, my legs and my voice to control the horse with the bit as a back up device.
    I am not so sure that I won't be back to bitless if things continue as they are. I don't cluck to trot, I just squeeze both legs. I don;t cluck to lope, I offset my weight, I move one leg back behind the girth and I squeeze him out from under me like squeezing tooth paste into the proper lead. No verbal command but come time to walk I just say WALK and he is walking.
    Mine are not show horses, they are working horses, handy horses.

    I alwasy greet my guy with a "HI old man"

    My old guy rode as well with a twine string or a hola hoop as with any bridle.
         
        03-01-2010, 06:49 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Hi Riosdad, nice to have you back - I like your BS, I think your funny!

    I have been riding with people over the last year which has been a new experience for me. I am now riding more on my own again by my own choice. I too am a quiet rider, I have got sick of waiting for poorly trained horses as their riders bale and lead them every five minutes or get off when the ground gets too "rough". I guess for me riding is quite a serious business, I like to pick a trail and then go do it, no hesitation just a good working pace, no drama!

    As frightening as it maybe my voice commands are pretty much identical to Riosdad, right down to the Standup, if my horse moves when I have dropped the reins and am walking away. I don't always speak when I am riding, I too use my legs and seat for steering but I do like voice commands that carry over on to the ground. For example if I have to get off to open a gate I keep my reins looped over Phoenix's neck, I open the gate and say Walk On, she walks herself through the gate and I proceed to close it while she waits. It is nice to be able to 'lead' her with a voice command and not have to touch her at all.

    The only bone of contention I have with Riosdad is his insistance that only male horses are bold and confident! Riosdad I swear you would love my mare, she would probably eat your boys for breakfast in the boldness stakes!
         
        03-01-2010, 07:08 PM
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    I love having a horse that knows verbal commands. You're right - that horse is the one with the lightest mouth.

    My mare will stop from a walk, trot, or canter when I say 'woah.' She used to go from a stop, trot, or canter to a walk when I said 'walk,' but I haven't used that command since I started reining because I want her to stop. She knows the words 'trot' and 'back' as well. For canter, I don't have a verbal command - I just touch her with one spur and she goes off on that lead.

    On the trail last week, it really came in handy. I was texting while riding and I had my leather split reins wrapped around the horn. They weren't wrapped very tightly, so I kept glancing down from my phone to make sure they were there. Well, one time I glanced down just in time to see one of them falling to the ground. My mare immediately stepped on it. I said 'woah' and she stopped (right on the rein). I said 'back' and she backed up until she was off of the rein, and I said 'woah' and she stopped again. Then I reached down and grabbed it. Crisis averted.



    The only thing I don't like about it is when I confuse her by saying something that rhymes with 'woah.' If somebody calls me while I'm riding and I answer with 'hello?,' she always stops. It's not a big deal, though. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
         
        03-01-2010, 07:25 PM
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    Originally Posted by kiwigirl    
    Hi Riosdad, nice to have you back -


    As frightening as it maybe my voice commands are pretty much identical to Riosdad, right down to the Standup,


    The only bone of contention I have with Riosdad is his insistance that only male horses are bold and confident! Riosdad I swear you would love my mare, she would probably eat your boys for breakfast in the boldness stakes!
    It is nice to be back. While away I did see alot of Spain and Portugal and lots and lots of bottles of wine

    It is frightening if we agree on something

    I had a nice mare from 1986 to 1989, she was bold , not moody and a fantastic jumper. I just prefer geldings for their even temperment all the time. Sort of like me, even tempered.
    I don't want to deal with heats and I feel males are slightly stronger, again like me.

    I'm sure your mare is every bit as bold as my guy but I couldn't even board where I do if I owned a mare. We have an exclusive NO MARE ALLOWED.
         
        03-01-2010, 07:31 PM
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    Originally Posted by CloudsMystique    
    I love having a horse that knows verbal commands. You're right - that horse is the one with the lightest mouth.


    The only thing I don't like about it is when I confuse her by saying something that rhymes with 'woah.' If somebody calls me while I'm riding and I answer with 'hello?,' she always stops. It's not a big deal, though. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
    I use the word HO so as not to confuse him. I do a few hard stops, a few nice flowing BACK every single ride as practice. We side pass left and right also , at least once every outing.
    The word WALK is used constantly to drop from the trot or lope and it is strong ingrained in him as are the other verbal commands.
    If you horse listens to verbal commands it means less use of the reins.

    As you stated it came in handy. I to have dropped a rein and a simple HO and he just stops. If I want an even harder stop I just say BACK and that really gets him scrambling. The back and stop are the same action to the horse.
         

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