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    03-17-2010, 03:34 AM
If it were my horse I would contact the American Farriers Association and find a certified farrier that specializes in navicular horses and get him involved. Farriers often know more about hoof diseases and treatments than vets do. They have one part of one species to specialize in so they can stay on top of every treatment. You may also want to look into haveing her nerved. It consists of severing the nerves to her feet so they don't cause her pain. She also can't feel them which is not real great for a jumper but won't effect a pleasure riding horse much. I have a gelding that my kids ride that has navicular and the previous owner had him nerved. He doesn't stumble and is quite pain free and happy as long as I keep him properly shod.
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    03-17-2010, 07:28 AM
Green Broke
Its not navicular though. After she mentioned the navicular bone she said this does not mean its navicular. I'll look into the nerving it sounds interesting.

Im deffinately going to try the shoes. Looking into how much the injections are. Right now her lameness isn't so bad because of the lyme meds, its kinda doing what the injection would do. Get rid of the imflammatory.
    03-17-2010, 10:21 AM
Green Broke
Oh Im so sorry to hear about Chance, after all you have been through together. My thoughts are with you and I hope the shoes help
    03-17-2010, 12:31 PM
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I'm with Kevin, get a farrier in. Show him the vets notes and let him (or her) give you some thoughts as well. I have a friend that bought a horse from a "horse trader" that was three years old. It had navicular, which she didn't find out until her AFTER purchase exam. She opted for special shoes and diet. She showed dressage for years although I don't think jumping something she was able to do. This horse is over 20 years old and still sound. The shoes are expensive though.
    03-17-2010, 04:59 PM
I also say have the farrier in. You really want to explore ALL your options.

I'm really sorry for the news. I hope everything goes well for you!
    03-17-2010, 05:21 PM
I would definitely have a specialist farrier come in and look at her. I would strongly suggest against nerving her though. I have seen some horses that do ok with it, but have seen many more that stumble and fall and they are prone to abscesses and bruises because they cannot feel their feet and therefore don't take as good a care as to where they're going and what they're stepping on. There are special shoes and pads to relieve pressure as well as gels and things as well. There are also supplements that help to relieve inflammation. I have had really great success with a supplement called BL Solution. It has made numerous arthritic, ringbone and navicular horses very close to pain free and some of them were very rideable for years even though their xrays and ultrasounds looked like they shouldn't even be pasture sound. I would definitely try some alternative therapies like chiropractic and massage as well. If you treat the whole horse it will be easier for her to deal with her feet and it will keep her more in balance which will help decrease the pressure. I would strongly suggest trying as many alternative therapies that you can but don't try them all at once. Do a trial and error test period for each to see if it actually works. Changing shoes, feed, supplements everything at once you won't see what is actually making a difference and what is not. Also, with her being 6 you're catching it early and hopefully being able to "correct" the problem but she will not be a horse that is going to hold up forever. There will be continuing degeneration of the bones in her feet and her condition will still worsen over time. That being said, the more you do to specialize for her the better chance you have of getting many more good years out of her.
    03-17-2010, 06:16 PM
Sending prayers and good vibes your way, HAF and Chance! Just wow... what news...

I agree with getting a hoof specialist out there; either a very well schooled farrier or whatever the next step above that would be. If you do look into nerve blocks, my grandmother had a grade TWH mare in her late teens with suspected navicular, and their farrier recommended looking into blocking her. They actually did a preliminary sort of procedure where a vet essentially novocained the mare's foot to simulate the actual nerve block to see if it would help her at all. The mare didn't do very much better numbed up, so they opted to leave her nerves alone. Turned out she didn't have navicular anyway, so so much the better. Perhaps you can do the same kind of "trial run" if blocking does end up on the table.

Good luck, and hugs to both of you.
    03-17-2010, 09:07 PM
Oh I'm sorry to hear this. You've had such a rough time together. I have no more advice than what has been given adlready in terms of health care and things you have already looked at over the last months. I can tell you that I have always felt more responsibility toward my "free" horses than the one that I actually paid for. I'm sure there are other people that feel the same way. I stay in touch with previous owners just as long as they like me too and they are all welcome to visit (except one complete loser who should never own any animal).

Whatever you decide, you will always know that you have gone above and beyond with Chance and she is very lucky to have found you.
    03-17-2010, 11:02 PM
Green Broke
Thank you so much everyone! A lot of great advice was given here I took some quick notes on some stuff that was suggested as options. I don't want to slam any doors shut yet.

The first visit, the vet did block her nerve in her ankle and there was a 98% improvement. So we had an idea where it was just not what it was till I got the X-rays.

Im calling my normal farrier tomorrow get his imput on it, then try to call a few more around here to get some other opinions. My vet seems to love my current farrier so that's deffinately a good sign. But if any of you want to find some farrier in Maine near Cape Elizabeth let me know!

The vet I had these past 2 visits has multiple cerfications in chiropractic work and even does teeth so Im deffinately keeping her around. She looked at Chance and said she wasn't out anywhere except in her poll area. We had her teeth done yesterday as well. But we pretty much got it all done in one shot.
    03-18-2010, 12:00 AM
Here is a list of all the AFA certified farriers listed in Maine.

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