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post #1 of 43 Old 10-26-2012, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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Cool VIDEOS: How To Fix a Horse That Bucks + Me Getting Bucked Off =P

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Calling The Plays: This is a gelding I picked up from a friend of mine. He had bucked off her daughter who was one of these plucky barrel racing teenagers and they didn't really know what to do with him so they gave him to me. He also bucked off a pretty talented dressage rider from France. I call him Cash. He's actually a pretty nice horse and a natural athlete. I'm convinced that he's a prince in rags, breeding-wise, but who's to say? Always the first one wanting to come up and get petted, but on the spoiled side. I don't hold it against him, I just go to work and get him doing something positive. Then maybe he can be something more in life than a pasture ornament. It's the USEFUL horse that stands the best chance in this world of living to old age.

When he bucked me off, it was because I wasn't busy enough. Gave him too much time to think about getting in trouble. If I fall I use that rush of adrenaline to get back on before I have a chance to feel the pain. Bend him. Pet him. Breathe. Stay busy. Keep changing directions, keep his mind occupied. Disengage those hindquarters to build control. Control means safety and leads to increased confidence. But don't forget that moving forward is the purpose of the whole endeavor! The more sure he gets of my intentions the more I'll risk. When he needs to go we'll go, and when he's ready to settle I allow him to stop. Pet him. I know I already said that. It bears repeating at least 100x more. Pet him. It works. He's 0.01% better than he was before.

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Some groundwork I did on day 2 prior to getting on. He starts out afraid/reactive of the flag and so I work on getting him used to it while at the same time using it to teach him to move around me in a consistent position, isolate his hindquarters and forequarters, and operate on the halter rope in a way similar to how I'm going to operate him from the saddle. As he settles down about the flag I lengthen the lead rope which gives him room to make smooth, balanced departures, turns and transitions on signals given without the slack taken out of the lead rope (reins). Also, I can now wave this plastic bag-on-a-stick around him and he can tolerate it. BONUS!

Day 2 Ride:

A little better today than yesterday. That last back-up weighed a few ounces.

Finally, here's just the part where I get bucked off:

I suffer no delusions. I know what you people really want to see. =P

I'll answer any questions anyone has about this horse or about things in general, or if you want to give me grief about this or that that's fine too!

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post #2 of 43 Old 10-26-2012, 01:26 PM
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why use the rope halter with only one rein? Seems like tying it up like a bridle with two reins would be easier.

I noticed on the groundwork that the horse has a bit more trouble with things in his right eye.

did you do any free round pen work?
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Ummm...I'm not even going to lie. I skipped right to the video of you getting bucked off. LMAO.

Now going back to watch the "boring" stuff.

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The horse is quite cute and athletic. I can see why you think he is worth the work. I agree with the why not a pair of reins - save yourself all the flipping and flapping. My only other comment is the old "really check saddle fit on a bucker" speech - the skirts look like they may hit him in the loin if he rounds and comes up in the back which would certainly be a good excuse for him to buck? I'm definetly not an expert on western saddle fit but a friend had a short backed arab that bucked - bucking stopped when they switched to a saddle with really short rounded skirts.
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I reckon he'll shape up to be a pretty good pony by the looks of him and aside from droppin out he was moving pretty good. Don’t know about you, but once I hit 30 Im sure the ground got a lot harder, and started to look a lot further away once I got up on their backs. Love to see where you have him in a few months time.
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Like it a lot. The one rein is an old "cowboy" method.. not much used these days. It is effective because you never give him a chance to use his mind to do what he wants.. as you change directions and speed so he never knows what is coming next.

By not interfering with his mouth (the one rein) he and you can concentrate more on keeping him moving and changing things up.. he becomes more accepting of you being there.. you are not suppressing the bucking other than by changing speed and direction. And, if he bucks you off, the one rein is easier to grab to recatch him and it is unlikely he will get hurt by one rein.

I like this a lot and I really like the horse. What a nice QH he is. You going to show him any cows? He seems athletic enough to do reining..

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Originally Posted by AnrewPL View Post
.... Love to see where you have him in a few months time.
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Thanks for the replies! I'll try to answer everybody.

tinyliny: I use the halter when I ride for the first few times for a couple of reasons. It's something I can use to keep myself busy while I'm up there which I've found to be really helpful in dealing with any nervous energy I may have in my own body from any un-helpful thoughts that may pass through my head (example, this horse already bucked off a good rider). Staying constantly busy helps me to stay present in the moment and block out all that mental noise which would get me in trouble if I let it get carried away. Also, my horse gets used to ropes flying around, objects going into and out of his blind spots and reappearing on the other side, he can learn to live with those things which will really help him in all areas (especially when I go to swing a rope on him). I could also ride him in a hackamore, and I will, but for the first few rides I like to do this. Plus, there's no chance that I could flip the horse on top of myself in a panic situation by accidently pulling straight back should I lose my seat.

You're right, he is more reactive on his right side and slightly too familiar in my space on the left. That comes from being handled predominantly on the left for most of his life. Same old story lol.

I do also do work at-liberty in the round pen in getting a horse rope-broke. I may do another video on that if anyone is interested.

CLaPorte432: =P

Sherian: Thanks, I'm glad you like him. :) As for saddle fit, I'd have to agree that it could probably be more ideal. I'm pretty poor lol. My income is roughly equivilant to the average working cowboy so, only got the two saddles. XD

It fits him in the most important ways, but I agree it aint outside the realm of possibility that it could be a factor. Though if he can learn to live with it that'll just make him that much better.

AnrewPL: Thanks. I'm 33 myself and already have a limp so I have an appreciation for what you mean! Agree about looking out ahead part. I wondered if anyone else would catch that! Yeah I'm lookin' to see if he's gonna buck me off! You're right though, it is causing him to doubt going forward. I'm lookin' at him and he's lookin' at me lookin' at him. Can't wait to get outside and find something else to look at besides horse ears!

Elana: You got it. Yeah I am thinking about cows, matter-of-fact! Last July the neighbor's cows got loose and showed up in my camp and this guy walked right into the middle of them. Stirred no more a ripple than an old veteran bridle horse. My eyebrows went up a few inches that day, I can tell you.

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Really excited to watch these when I get on the computer. I'm keen to see the one rein stuff, I agree that the mental noise you get when riding a known troublemaker can be really counterproductive.

AnrewPL, ground became harder at 23 for me lol, all that responsibility at work so I can't afford to break an arm! And yeah I find myself looking down on a bucker too, which is obviously not the thing to do lol. My instinct is to watch the ears for any indication of naughty thoughts but I've started putting a white bow at the top of the mane as a reminder to look up again!
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the reason I asked about the free work in the round pen was that one of my first thoughts when watching your flagging him was that he seems a bit stuck. I would think that his first reaction would be to go forward, but he wants to go sideways and other stuff. Now take this with a huge grain of salt, 'cause I have no real experience training, only watching . . . but it kind of looked like you might work more with having him go foward off the flag, and even when things are on his back and flapping around, if he knows to go forward he will be less likely to buck. That was a really long sentence and not very clear, but do you catch my drift?
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