Wake up you stupid horse and move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

Wake up you stupid horse and move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a discussion on Wake up you stupid horse and move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category
  • What to do with a stupid horse
  • What do you call a dumb horse

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    09-02-2010, 11:18 PM
  #1
Weanling
Wake up you stupid horse and move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My mare is starting to get lazy. She really wakes up when I pick up the end of the rope, whip, or spurs. However I don't want to have to do this all the time. She tends to lag behind me when I lead her.

I am wanting to take her to a local halter show next weekend. I know that this would require me to jog her a little bit and then lead her out. But I have tried to get her to jog with me and its like trying to pull a ton of bricks. She will try to walk while I am trying to jog. I am not physically fit enough to pull her all the way around the arena. I need her to help me out and not make do all the work.

How can I get her to jog with me?????
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    09-02-2010, 11:52 PM
  #2
Weanling
Could you use a dressage whip and tap her bum with it while you're asking her to move?
I'm having this issue with my gelding. Some days he'll trot with me and step up to my shoulder nicely and then other days he'd just rather me drag him from A to B
     
    09-03-2010, 12:01 AM
  #3
Green Broke
Get someone behind you to clap. Once she starts jogging with you, reward her.

The thing about using a dressage whip is a lot of times the horse will start angling away from the whip because they know you are going to tap them with it then you have a horse moving forward at an angle and not straight.
     
    09-03-2010, 12:02 AM
  #4
Weanling
I tried that this afternoon. I am kinda discordinated when it comes to handling a whip and leading a horse. Might try to find my finer made whip / stick and see if that will work.
     
    09-03-2010, 12:39 AM
  #5
Started
Dangle a carrot in front of her nose!

I would free lounge her and get her focused on wanted to shadow your every move. This should take one session in a paddock (NOT a round pen) and then problem salved.

Tapping on the butt with a whip then rewarding... Clapping behind her and rewarding, that's all well and good but you're speaking like your teaching a human, she's a horse and she doesn't care :) She also knows when you're in the show ring that no one will be there to "man her butt" so this is a pickle.

The issue is ground work and explain this to her in horse terms because, she is a horse. If horses were training people I'd expect them to learn English to do so... but for now its us training them so speak her language!

Not the best example but here is what I mean by the end result. He was a lazy horse too (10 minutes before this video was taken)
     
    09-03-2010, 12:46 AM
  #6
Green Broke
Rewarding absolutely does work. Whether you use a treat or praise with pats on the neck and scratches. People have been doing that with horses for years with great success.

Obviously you don't have someone behind them the entire time you are training. You do it the first few times until the horse understands your cues and then you are able to move ahead without anyone behind.

I think you probably don't understand horses that well if you think they can't understand what we say in English. My horse will do his gaits and transitions just by verbal cues when I am free lunging him. Draft horse drives use voice cues to move the horse left to right. So it's silly to say it only has to be in 'horse language'.
     
    09-03-2010, 12:59 AM
  #7
Started
I guess I just do not understand horses Solon. This is why I purchase only problem children who have been to many trainers with no such luck.

I didn't say horses cannot learn to understand voice commands. If you got that, you've totally misunderstood.

I also never said rewarding doesn't work. The horse who comes to me and follows gets plenty of pats and praise.

If you'll notice she's tried the whip/tap way and said it has not worked well. I offered an alternative way that no one has suggested and that works far better IMO than some clapping behind the horse. The horse KNOWS it is being asked to walk forward, clearly, so unless someone is clapping she'll plod along unless something is addressed in her language.

If you and I walked up to a herd of wild mustangs and you said "WHOA" to a running horse while I stepped out in front of another running horse with my hand in the air quietly, mine would slow and turn, yours would keep on-a-runnin!

But what do I know :)
     
    09-03-2010, 01:19 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Well, having grown up with a grandfather that raised nothing but mustangs and was able to do just what you described, I'd say you're still wrong.

You said:

Tapping on the butt with a whip then rewarding... Clapping behind her and rewarding, that's all well and good but you're speaking like your teaching a human, she's a horse and she doesn't care

You implied the horse didn't care about the rewards. If that's the case why do you give pats and praise? In other words, rewards.

You also said:

The issue is ground work and explain this to her in horse terms because, she is a horse.

Which I disagreed with saying you can use verbal commands just the same. It's how I taught my draft and every other horse.

Are you a natural horsemanship trainer?
     
    09-03-2010, 03:05 AM
  #9
Trained
Solon I think you have misrepresented what you mean by horses understanding English. YES, they can learn vocal cues. Of course they can, most animals can. But horses cannot understand English. If they could, then you could say "I want you to follow me closely and step out smartly at least this once because that nasty judge is watching and I want him to think you are the best horse there ever was." You use horse language to teach the horse that the English word "Trot" means pick up your feet buddy, and make it look good.
     
    09-03-2010, 06:06 AM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solon    
Get someone behind you to clap.
Just make sure not this close:

     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Time for a wake up call! Rip into me! aussiegirl1989 Horse Riding Critique 11 07-13-2010 02:42 PM
Getting my horse to MOVE Tawny Horse Training 3 09-22-2009 05:59 PM
Should we move our horse? outrun Barn Maintenance 22 01-28-2009 08:09 PM
A cold wake-up call Angel_Leaguer General Off Topic Discussion 13 12-16-2008 03:14 PM
...Stupid Morning, Stupid Cows, Stupid Stupid... BluMagic Horse Health 9 01-07-2008 01:44 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0