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post #1 of 25 Old 03-12-2013, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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Walking behind me when leading...UGH!!

Fancy has good manners when leading and great manners on the cross ties, but she will NEVER walk beside me! It doesn't matter my pace, even if im walking very slow she will ALWAYS be slower than me and when I try to draw her up with the rope she won't budge. She also often braces, and as hard as I pull she WON'T come. HELP!? The thing about walking behind me is getting extremely annoying...
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post #2 of 25 Old 03-12-2013, 08:37 PM
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Behind you as in in your foot prints or behind you as in not at your shoulder?
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post #3 of 25 Old 03-12-2013, 08:42 PM
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Stand at her shoulder, line in right hand, whip in left (horse between you and wall). Reach back with left hand and tap, and then walk on. If the horse lags behind even a little, tap again. She should walk/trot/stop within one lesson. Then follow up, ALWAYS.

It is just too dangerous to allow a horse to be behind you, they can spook and jump onto you (I have seen that, the results were surgery for the handler.)
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Without more info, only guessing on the why of the problem, but if she's generally good, but sometimes for no apparent reason just refuses, and she want's to 'heel' you all the time(as in like an Aussie cattle dog or horse), it may be that she sees herself as the leader & is doing as you ask so long as it suits her. Meaning that you may need to earn more respect & be more assertive.

But then again, perhaps she gets 'stuck' because she's unsure about stuff - frightened. Perhaps she won't walk beside you because she's previously been taught not to... need more info.

I'd be teaching her to yield better before worrying about specifics such as where she is when led. Instead of trying to pull her forward(or whatever direction), I'd suggest putting some pressure on the lead, enough to make it mildly uncomfortable for her, and hold that pressure - don't pull - until she comes off it. As you're not pulling, it should also be an instant reinforcement for her when she steps forward. I'd also make a point of positively reinforcing 'good' behaviour too & working in little steps, not expecting too much for too long.

I don't want a horse getting ahead of me when leading & I like to be able to see them without turning around & I tend to just politely nudge/bump them when they're in 'the wrong' position. That & positively reinforcing the Right position

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Behind you as in in your foot prints or behind you as in not at your shoulder?
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Not at my shoulder. Like, behind me but to the side of my shoulder
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post #6 of 25 Old 03-12-2013, 08:48 PM
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What equitate said. You can also use a dressage whip or carrot stick to do the same thing. I find a carrot stick handier.
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I don't think she was taught to do that; she hadn't been really worked with for a while before we got her. Her owner had another horse, and she was in college and brought that horse with her to college so not much has been done with Fancy. She is a VERY quick learner and very responsive and smart.
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post #8 of 25 Old 03-12-2013, 08:55 PM
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As long as they aren't directly behind me or more than a foot nose/my shoulder, I don't have an issue with it.

I ended up with a horse that will speed walk up to my shoulder if I "leave her behind" on a loose lead while she's still*turning around or such. Her nose is parallel to my shoulder/arm and in line. Which I both like and dislike. Instead of just having room to do what I need to while holding her, I have to physically turn around and have her stand or she'll crowd and come right up to my shoulder. With ST, if I let her lag behind when we started leading, that's how she stayed. If I started with her at my shoulder, that's where she stayed. I loved it. Personally, if you know the horse (I knew ST wouldn't dare jump into me because she knew I'd beat her backwards to the other end of the field) and both the horse and you know the route, I see no harm. In a new place, I'd rather the horse be at my shoulder so that my lead can be shorter if there were to be an issue.
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post #9 of 25 Old 03-12-2013, 08:57 PM
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miover does this I will walk him, and he walks behined me as he's like sniffing my butt lmao....i don't feed him by hand nor carry treats. I just stop and correct where I want him to be...cos if he walks behined me and gets excited he will knock me over and stepon me so I don't think it is a safe thing to let them walk behined me
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My guess is she's or was trained western, even possibly cow horse, barrels, rodeo. If my guess is correct, it's extremely likely that she's trained to lead like that. Behind you, off the side. That's just my guess and I've been wrong before. I personally have no issue with it. It's LEADING not walking with you. Just different then some people prefer. Ya can't rightly lead 3 or 4 horses at once if they all wanna be at your shoulder. If you want her up with you, some tips have been given. If she leads fine behind you, eh, let her be. Opinions may and will defer. That's mine.
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