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    07-13-2013, 08:58 PM
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Weanling
Wanting to buck at the canter?

I'm working with a new horse, Skipper; a ~16hh QH gelding who we think is around 7 years old. He was previously used as a mountain pack and trail horse for hunting.

Occasionally when I go to ask for a canter, he will pin his ears, throw his head down and arch up. He doesn't actually throw a legitimate buck, but acts like he wants to. Actually, he did it in the middle of a canter today as well. He'll do that, then try to stop. He doesn't act as if he is in pain, so I rode him through it and ended on a good note, with a nice forward willing canter, ears soft and no offer to buck.

It doesn't matter whether we are bareback, under saddle (which does fit properly), bitted or bitless. It's not every ride either, only sometimes.

Its been a very long time since I've ridden a horse that does that, and I had a trainer instructing me the whole way. Did I do the right thing? What can I do to work this behavior out of him? If I should do groundwork for a while I'm more than willing, however he lunges perfectly (I did it before riding today for a few minutes) and joins up, licking and chewing, very quickly. He also gives to pressure, backs up, respects your space, and is generally very well mannered all around on the ground.

Any suggestions are very welcome. Thank you.
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    07-13-2013, 09:04 PM
  #2
Weanling
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I'm working with a new horse, Skipper; a ~16hh QH gelding who we think is around 7 years old. He was previously used as a mountain pack and trail horse for hunting.

Occasionally when I go to ask for a canter, he will pin his ears, throw his head down and arch up. He doesn't actually throw a legitimate buck, but acts like he wants to. Actually, he did it in the middle of a canter today as well. He'll do that, then try to stop. He doesn't act as if he is in pain, so I rode him through it and ended on a good note, with a nice forward willing canter, ears soft and no offer to buck.

It doesn't matter whether we are bareback, under saddle (which does fit properly), bitted or bitless. It's not every ride either, only sometimes.

Its been a very long time since I've ridden a horse that does that, and I had a trainer instructing me the whole way. Did I do the right thing? What can I do to work this behavior out of him? If I should do groundwork for a while I'm more than willing, however he lunges perfectly (I did it before riding today for a few minutes) and joins up, licking and chewing, very quickly. He also gives to pressure, backs up, respects your space, and is generally very well mannered all around on the ground.

Any suggestions are very welcome. Thank you.
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First thing I'd rule out is any pain anywhere. Have you checked his back so see if he is ouchy along his back??
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    07-13-2013, 09:08 PM
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Foal
If there is no pain try this- make the canter his idea by pushing him into an extended trot. He will decide that its less work to go into the canter.
     
    07-13-2013, 09:12 PM
  #4
Banned
A pack horse aint really asked to do much loping- same for a hunting horse-- if pain has been ruled out id say he's just not been loped in a while.

For that I would work on loping with him like you did untill he stops drawing his back up and threatening a buck.. I don't know your riding experience but what I do is kick when they threaten and if they do buck I keep kicking till they quit- I don't think you should do that unless youve got the ability to hang on good and push him out of it.
     
    07-13-2013, 09:29 PM
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Weanling
What I did specifically was to pull one rein in sort of a one rein stop and disengage his hindquarters, then kick him forward and kept going.
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    07-13-2013, 09:31 PM
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Weanling
Yes mocha - I did on both sides before ever riding him, and no pain whatsoever that I found.
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    07-13-2013, 09:59 PM
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Weanling
I would not let the bucking allow him to stop cantering. He is trying to get out of work, so if you stop him every time he bucks, he's getting what he wants and the behavior will likely continue. I usually pull the head up and drive forward until they stop bucking, and sometimes I pop them with a crop or end of a rein to keep them moving. Other than making the horse keep cantering, I ignore the bucking as much as possible and it usually goes away after a few rides where it does not get the desired result. If not, often pain is the cause rather than naughtiness.
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    07-13-2013, 10:38 PM
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Weanling
Mmm I could carry my crop for the next few rides, that's a good idea. I didn't let him stop completely, as soon as he quit his fit I got him right back into the canter. I will try harder to keep it continuous next time though because I think you are right - it seemed like he was just giving attitude and being stubborn trying to be testy and get out of work. He wasn't acting as if he was in pain at all.
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    07-14-2013, 06:45 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Clean his sheath.

With male horses, a sheath that needs cleaning can cause bucking and it is usually at the canter. Imagine sand in your underwear and riding a rocking horse?

Clean the sheath.

And FYI, mares with dirty udders will also do this but not as often.
     
    07-14-2013, 10:45 PM
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Weanling
I have heard so many different answers to this, and it may well be the cause: when he moves, mostly at the trot and canter, he makes that weird noise coming from his abdomen or hind end that sounds like something is rubbing? That very distinctive noise that I've only ever heard from male horses. Is that caused by a sheath that needs cleaned?

Also, I have never cleaned a sheath before. How exactly do you..?
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