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    04-19-2010, 05:31 PM
The war horse

I have read this a number of times in different books. Usually written my englishmen who were in the cavalry in one of the arab countries. They are old books written in the mid 1800's
Books on what it was like back then when horses were used as war horses.
I just found this interesting. While way overboard for us maybe back then when your life depended on your horse.
Like the king who said "" My kingdom for horse""

Anyway copied from one of those books, don't know for sure which but I believe it was Horses of the Sahara, I beleive

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    04-19-2010, 05:39 PM
When your life depends on a horse you will do what you need to do to make sure the horse will not fail you. Your average bedoin wouldn't have the luxury of dismounting and doing a little ground work or playing the porcupine game when his horse refuses to cross an obstacle while hoards of rival tribesman are bearing down on him. American Indians used different but equally harsh techniques for training thier horses.
    04-19-2010, 06:15 PM
Awesome thread Kevin.

I enjoy reading about the Polish Hussars because of my Polish heritage. They were phenomanal horsemen and the funny thing when you read about them is that nowhere does it talk about cavalry soldiers going through horse after horse looking for the ONE. Like all soldiers going into battle they had a horse and they made it work, I have never come across discussions on the nature of the Hussarian battle horse although there is a lot of discussion on the prefered confirmation. I believe the general belief was that if a horse was physically capable then it would make a battle horse, whether the horse wanted to be or not wasn't really up for discussion.

Now days many horse riders underestimate the capabilities of the horses they ride and considering all the problem horses that crop up on this forum it is definitely to the horses detriment. There is the same mentality cropping up in horse training as there is in raising children. This weird belief that there should be a choice. Which I don't subscribe to in any way shape or form, for my horse and my child there are no choices in some aspects of life. When horse riding I choose the direction, speed, pace that we go - no discussion and do what is required to get my way. With my daughter I dictate the rules all day and there is no choice for her. Now I have a horse that goes anywhere and through anything regardless of circumstances, I also have a young daughter who is happy, polite, outgoing, confident and well behaved.

I know I have gone off on a bit of a tangent I just believe that in this new politically correct world we seem to live in, the lines of true authority have been lost. That small piece of text kindly shared by Kevin is very revealing it is about the lives of people who couldn't afford to worry about the sensibility of their horses and the horses were better for it.
    04-19-2010, 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by kiwigirl    
Awesome thread Kevin.

. That small piece of text kindly shared by Kevin is very revealing it is about the lives of people who couldn't afford to worry about the sensibility of their horses and the horses were better for it.
Yes thank you Kevin for posting that.

I beleive a horse forced into something becomes the more reliable in the end. A horse that never tries and then fails is never really dependable.
    04-19-2010, 06:48 PM
Green Broke
I don't really like the sound of that training method, There are other ways to make a fearless horse. But the cavalry has lots of horses and theyre in war... so it would be a little hard to use the longer training methods, haha.
    04-19-2010, 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by ridergirl23    
I don't really like the sound of that training method, There are other ways to make a fearless horse. But the cavalry has lots of horses and theyre in war... so it would be a little hard to use the longer training methods, haha.
I don't think I agree with the statement that there are other ways to make a horse fearless. I believe that you can get a horse to tolerate certain things in certain situations through long careful exposure however that doesn't beget a brave horse. That is a horse that is ok in some situations but basically unpredictable. A brave horse is one that goes forward into ANY new situation with no hesitation, absolutely trusting that what ever is ahead can be coped with. My horse is like that, I am riding on my own more and more because I am sick of being limited in the scope of my rides by people who have horses that are too scared and untrusting to do what I know they can do easily - after all my horse does it.

I am a very brave rider who has been riding in rough country since I was a kid, I know what a horse is capable of handling in the environment we live in and that is what I expect my horse to do. If my horse said "no way, I can't do that the water is too dirty and deep and that bank is too steep and slippery to go up or down!" I would never go anywhere. I don't give my horse the choice because she would probably choose not to go forward which would leave me looking like a dick with a long walk home. I can't see any other way of teaching a horse how to be brave other than putting them in a situation and making them face up to it - whatever that takes.
    04-19-2010, 07:58 PM
Green Broke
Im not saying not make them face up to it, but I am saying different ways other then make their sides bleed.
Haha and sorry, I didnt quite mean fearless, just brave, haha there isnt a horse out there that is fearless, they have to many instincts for that.
    04-19-2010, 08:03 PM
Wow. I agree with most of you, but does that mean if my horse won't cross somthing on the trail, I force them too? Seriously, what do we do about that modern times?
    04-19-2010, 08:03 PM
Haha you know whats funny, riding a horse the next morning with a hangover. Once they spook good, your totally awake and alert lol. I just had to say that since this thread is about fearless and what not. If our horses were fearless, than we would never be awake while riding them like we are now haha. I'd rather ride my horse to sober up than to drive, driving with a hangover makes me even more tired.
    04-19-2010, 08:49 PM
I don't agree with the entire method (like the rubbing in of salt or gunpowder) but in situations like that, that is a quick and effective method to get a very obedient horse. That isn't the way that I do things, I don't believe in inflicting injury unless I truely have to. But then again, I have more time to get my horses trained than they probably did. I like to think that any one of mine would willingly charge into a bunch of men wearing armor and carrying swords but unless they are ever called to, I guess I'll never know LOL. However, I do know that they will face down a charging angry momma cow or pull anything that I can put a rope on and that's what I need. So I'm pretty happy with how mine behave and I have never had to draw blood with a spur to get them there.

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