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Warning, long: When is it time to get off the horse?

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        07-28-2013, 12:59 PM
    Originally Posted by Cherie    
    This is how it is supposed to work, but not all horses have read that play-book.
    Haha. Truer words.... Even though I would rather not have, I was glad I got off instead of endangering 3 other kids on their first trail ride ever. The last thing I needed was a second horse to start getting antsy because this one was having a massive fit trying to run over everything and everyone.

    Great idea about the video also. I regularly take progress videos on the horses I ride, and I will just need to make sure I have lots of video of her before she goes. I will tape our next few sessions. Even though we do lessons with the owner once the horse is trained, I guess that didn't work out this time so video will be even more important.
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        07-28-2013, 01:17 PM
    Originally Posted by Dustbunny    
    One option that will give you control over where the horse goes is to buy her (maybe the owner will make you a heck of a deal) and then move her on to a rider with enough ability and confidence to enjoy her. Other than that, you do your job and hope for the best for the horse.
    Originally Posted by natisha    
    Agree or maybe you could try to sell her for the owners out of your barn. Then they would never have to deal with her again.
    I've been thinking about both of these options. I am sitting down with the owner at some point next week and I think I will bring both of them up, depending on what she wants. If she wants a quick sell and good riddance, she will probably have to lower her price and I might buy her. If she wants to wait for the right buyer, even better and we can sell her out of the barn. I think the biggest thing I'm concerned about here is making a rookie mistake- I have my own horses and buying/selling is no problem, but the this would be the first time I am buying a horse simply to have control over where it goes... that being said she is a nice age, knows tons and would do so great for the right person, so it's not like I'd be buying a green horse with a bad conformation...

    Originally Posted by bsms    
    It sounds like the owner may be making a good decision. I didn't know how to ride when I bought my first horse. She was advertised as "perfect for a beginner". I had done a little riding 30 years earlier, so how hard could it be? Just buy a horse that was perfect for a beginner, and learn...

    The professional trainer I hired (who did wonders with Mia) said Mia will never be an easy horse. She said Mia is one of those horses who view every ride as an adventure. The plus side is that she puts a lot of effort into each ride. The minus is that she expects her rider to put a lot of effort into each ride...

    Yes I think it is the best decision for the owner. And for the horse, provided she goes to someone who is a good match for her. Hopefully I can have some input there, I would hate for this to end up a horror story when she gets sold.

    Mia sounds like a little adventure :) I am grinning because I've ridden a few horses that sound exactly like her- "I will work so hard for you- but you will work hard too!", is almost this mare's motto. It sounds like you got some professional help and put in a lot of effort, and it is encouraging to see you have stuck it out. I wish more people did this :)

    Anyway, thank you all so much for your advice and sharing tips and knowledge. I found there are a lot of people on this sub-forum that are extremely knowledgeable, good horse people and I will continue to siphon knowledge from you over the internet hehe. I don't meet with the owner for a few days so I will update on what's happening to this mare and then we can hopefully move on to more cheerful topics!
        07-28-2013, 01:24 PM
    I have developed a very strong sense of self-preservation over the years...plus I am not at an age where hitting the ground is a desired option.
    If I know a situation is developing, I have no problem getting off. Hopefully we can calm the brain cells and continue, but if not, well, that's why I wear comfy footwear. Either way, one of these times indicates we have more work to do in a more secure environment.
        07-28-2013, 09:46 PM
    Originally Posted by amberly    
    If you get off a horse when he is doing something bad - whether you start working him from ground or not - then that tells the horse that what he did was good and he should continue to do that because when he does that - you get off of him.
    But if you only dismount when he is doing good, then that will teach the horse that the only way you will dismount him is if he is being good.
    it's not always that black & white, especially in this case because this particular misbehaviour is caused more by herdboundness than the horse simply wanting to get rid of it's rider.

    If the horse only wanted to get rid of the rider and started jumping around and you responded to that by getting off, then what you are saying would be true because the horse has gotten it's way. But this horse isn't specifically trying to get rid of its rider, it's trying to get home or to it's buddy, and throwing a tantrum when its denied that. So to get off and tie it up is eliminating any danger of the rider being thrown (or risking the safety of other people), and still denying the horse of what it wants (to be with its buddies) untill it's willing to be compliant.

    I personally do like to stay on as long as I can so that I don't cause one problem while solving another, but that's not to say that getting off & tying the horse won't solve herdboundness better than anything else.

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