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post #1 of 7 Old 05-30-2008, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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Wayyyyyyyyy outta my depth.......

Please bear with me while I try to explain.....

I have a gorgeous old Mare, she is totaaly bomb proof, wonderful with the children, easy to tack up etc she basically just stands there and lets you do anything to her. Anyway, she is getting on a bit and I wanted to seperate her from the big herd she runs with so I can see her easily everyday to feed/rug her and make sure she is fine.

So - I realised I needed company for her, after asking around I finally found a little pony, the guy who owned her couldnt do anything with her as she was too small, so she was just left to run wild and has had almost no training. He made a vauge and poor attempt at breaking her in 6 months ago and now I am left to pick up the pieces.

She is 4 years old, very sweet but terribly nervous. Iv had her for about a month. She gets on great with my old mare so thats brilliant, and she will come over to be fed, but she HATES being touched. I can persevere with her and she will tolerate me touching her neck but if I go down past her withers she freaks out and runs away, her whole back spasms and twitches, she is terrified of being touched anywhere but her neck. Its taken a lot of work to get her to the point where she will let me gently touch her when she is eating, but she is still very shy and she still doesnt like it.

Anyway, after a huge drama tonight and like a scene from the wild west I finally managed to trick her and get a rope around her neck and a halter on. Im going to leave her haltered for the time being so that I can catch her a more easily. She is not one bit happy about it.

I dont know what to do with her, I dont know how to start desensatizing her to touch, I cant even contemplate her ever being ridden - I basically just want her tame enough so I can check her over, fuss her and rug her without any issues. How on earth can I help her get over her fear?

Im so out of my depth, I know NOTHING about horse training and I need to start from scratch with a semi wild scared horse

Any ideas? Im at my wits end

p.s also she has no respect for me, she doesnt see me as the leader, she answers to nobody but my old mare, she gives me evil ears sometimes if I approach her when she is having her bucket of feed and I dont know how to change that either
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post #2 of 7 Old 05-30-2008, 06:59 PM
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Call a trainer ASAP. I do not mean this in a disrespectful manner but if you are in over your head you need more help than the internet can provide. Do not get yourself or anyone else hurt...get some professional help. Good Luck!

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post #3 of 7 Old 05-30-2008, 07:12 PM Thread Starter
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I really do need a trainer, but there just isnt any where I live (a small Island in the South Atlantic) I'm pretty much on my own with this, Im willing to learn and try anything, but just muddling through isnt working, I need some plan of action, I havent a clue what to do - I dont want to get rid of her because the Old lady loves her and she loves the Old lady, they are a great team, I really just need someway to train her up, not to riding standard but just tame enough for me to be able to care for her properly
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post #4 of 7 Old 05-30-2008, 10:29 PM
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okay...im not trainer but here is my opinion. First call a local trainer just to talk and see if they have any advice. Seconed gain the ponys trust...start from basics, get used to her around you doing normal things once she is comfortable start giving her treats by letting her take them from your hand. it takes some time but as you work slowly she will gain your trust. after that get her used to a halter and lead and then you could start working with her on the ground with a lunge line. this takes alot of time. but i hope it helped =]

I have a 8YO QH who was a championship barrel racer untill i took him to be a jumper. i never had quite your problem but he and i had alot of bondng before we could seriously jump. i took him and would sit with him in our pasture talking to him and going on easy alone trails. before i knew it we were best buddies and the trust factor built. The point of my story here is that a good relationship between you and your horse is the key in training. Were now jumping 4ft =]]

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post #5 of 7 Old 05-30-2008, 11:35 PM
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If you do want to try working with her yourself here's my tips:

1. Don't force her to do anything she's scared to do. This won't help one bit. She will just get terrified. I never use force on my horse, just understanding.

2. If your pasture/pen isn't too big, try join-up. PM me if you don't know what join-up is so I don't have to flood the topic with my explanation.

3. Use Bach flower oils. You can get them from the website: http://www.bachflower.com/Pets.htm There's a whole chart there of different problems. To my understanding of the oils, she could use Aspen, Larch, Rock Rose, Walnut, and Rescue Remedy. There are a few others that might work, but these would work the best. I have found Rescue Remedy at GNC, but not the others. I'm not going to lie; they are pretty expensive. They are $14.95 for one remedy, and $415 for the whole set of 38. They are worth it though. They are very good and work very quickly. You just put a few drops in their water and they start to improve. I am a firm believer in Bach.

4. Once she starts improving, don't move too quickly. If anything, just sit in the psature petting your horse. She will eventually become interested. It's really good if you bring treats too. They will insure positive reinforcement until you can touch her. Once you are able to touch her in her vunerable areas (ears, withers, neck) then start to scratch her for reinforcement.

I have more tips, but I don't want to flood the topic. If you are interested in my approach, PM me and I will give you more information.


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post #6 of 7 Old 05-31-2008, 05:37 AM
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I agree with the post right above mine - try the join up deal or the marv walker bonder - that's what we've been doing with ours - but they baby version of everything since they are so young. Also, the part about spending time with your other horse, that REALLY helped ours. They have three older pasture mates and they watch everything everyone else does. That helped the most I think, they trust those horses more then us, so they follow the leader really. Just give it your best if you have no other options - necessity is the mother of invention and that sort of thing, know what I mean? I think you can do it, if we could I know you can.
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post #7 of 7 Old 05-31-2008, 05:56 AM
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I am only new to forums and l a not a horse expert by any means but l was given a horse that had been mistreated and was very young (5years no training) very scared. I never tried to catch her (l was to scared), I kept her in a smaller paddock and l would go up once a day to work her, didnt try to catch her just lunged her at liberty so to speak, she paid attention to me, watched me and when l relaxed and whoed her she would start to come in to me, Pat Parelli calls it Taught to be cought, once she started coming to me without the work l would just rub her down with a carrot stick, nothing to extreme five minutes here and there, after about 3 months of this l got a vet out for a full check up, she had sharp teeth, cavities and ulsers as well as fractured teeth. The pore girl was in that much pain no wonder she wanted to be left alone, a month of good feed and rest and she was a new horse. She has gone from potential dog food to my best friend because of a good vet, Pat Parelli and alot of patience. It was well worth it and ld recommend it to anyone. Please do some homework and go in confident.
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