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    08-08-2008, 02:30 AM
  #1
Foal
We have no brakes!!!!!

My AQH tobi is basicly wild...he only responds to you when he wants too... lol so I tried to change that and start trainging him more....We started with the mighty stop....ever herd of teaching your horse to stop by running to the fence and saying who.....I have so I tried it......Tobie had something else in mind and turned left at the lasts second and ceamed my right leg into the rail....Any tips on training your wild horses or atleast having better breaks on your horses!!LOL
     
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    08-08-2008, 10:16 AM
  #2
Weanling
Take him right back to groundwork, work him in a round pen, or on a lunge line and teach him to stop from voice. Once he has mastered that, transfer it to the saddle.
     
    08-08-2008, 12:38 PM
  #3
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepher
Take him right back to groundwork, work him in a round pen, or on a lunge line and teach him to stop from voice. Once he has mastered that, transfer it to the saddle.
Yep. If you can't get him to whoa out of the saddle, you probably won't get him to in the saddle.

There's always the one rein stop undersaddle though.
Any time my Half Arab gelding gets hot and thinks he's going to pull a stunt, I just get his nose to my knee.
     
    08-08-2008, 12:42 PM
  #4
Showing
I think running into fence is very dangerous. I've seen horse basically smacked into the fence and rider flipped over the fence. Was funny, but not for the rider, of course.

Try to teach one-rein stop. First on walk, than trot, than canter...
     
    08-08-2008, 12:49 PM
  #5
Yearling
Okay some tips coming your way:

1. Do like everybodys says ground work
2. In doing ground work, work on bending to the right or left
3. Teach him to back, walk, trot, and canter on your commands(i would wait to gallop)lol..
4. If a horse can bend then if you get in a bind and are on a runaway horse then bend his neck and a horse can run straight or period with their head facing their butts -Clinton Anderson
5. Teach him that you are the boss! ;)

Keep us updated!!
     
    08-08-2008, 01:05 PM
  #6
Banned
Goundwork goundwork and MORE groundwork

Sounds to me he is less wild and more dominant. I'd start doing some of the Parelli Seven Games. My horse was dominant and that helped him realize I am the lead/dominant horse, not him.

The Seven Games

1) The Friendly Game....being able to toss the string on the carrot stick (kinda like a lunge whip but NOT the same thing) on every part of the horses body without them thinking you are going to hurt him. Then start intruducing other things like plastic bags, and so on

2) Porcupine Game.....being able to slightly touch the hindquarters and being able to have the horse turn on the forehand and move from your way....same with the front...being able to touch the neck/face and have the horse turn on haunches and move out of your way

3) Driving Game....almost the same as #2, but you aren't touching the horse. Be able to back your horse up, turn, and so on with NO contact whatso ever

4) Yo-Yo Game....being able to back your horse up by simple wiggling a finger and then be able to bring the horse back to you

5) Circling Game....being able to "lunge" your horse (using the word lunge as an example but it isn't really lunging) around you in a circle (on a line or even without one) without you moving at all

6) Side-ways Game....being able to make your horse go sideways by motioning with your hands (no touching)

7) Squeeze Game....being able to take the horse between you an an object without going behind your back.

If you can master the first 4 games you can do all of them for the last 3 is just take offs of the first 3-4. Those games have improved Sonny's behaviour soo much. He listens sooo much better and just wants to be with me and make me proud of him.

If you want more information about the 7 games drop me a message...I'm not going to go through all the details in here cause it would take too much room and I doubt everyone wants to read it (or even cares for Parelli)


But defiantely just work on groundwork in a roundpen or someplace that isn't too big.
     
    08-08-2008, 01:14 PM
  #7
Showing
Like everyone else said, LOTS of groundwork. :) It should really help. He needs to be taught who's boss, & one-rein stops are also good.
     
    08-08-2008, 02:01 PM
  #8
Showing
Time to start over again. No respect means you don't get to play until you get his respect back. Work with him on the ground, test him every once in a while to make sure you have all the buttons and start your work back to the top.

One of the babies I own is a Clyde cross. This mare is a sweet horse BUT she is also just shy of 16 hands at the young age of 1. She like any horse will test me every once in a while.

Two days ago as we were leaving the baby field, she started to lose sight of her buddy as we were coming around the corner. She decided that planting herself would be a good option. Now here I am on a crippled leg, she is 10 times my size and I wasn't going to play tug-o-war with her. As far as I'm concerned her option was not going to happen, and I couldn't force her forward (nor would I want to) so I backed her up to the point where it will make her realise that backing up is actually MORE work than just going forward in the first place.

It's a mind game with these guys. You should never have to use force for anything. It might take time to get your boy there, and you can bet he is going to test you along the way but keep your cool and don't skip steps or take shortcuts and you 2 will be ready to go again before you know it.
     
    08-08-2008, 03:07 PM
  #9
Foal
no brakes

Thanks for all the helpfull replies....What is a one way stop....He is western so I have a shank bit on him that is proably 2 in so I can't pull hard or he will get up and it is sucide to use a snaffel.....lol
     
    08-08-2008, 04:07 PM
  #10
Showing
Re: no brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by jumping' jimmie
Thanks for all the helpfull replies....What is a one way stop....He is western so I have a shank bit on him that is proably 2 in so I can't pull hard or he will get up and it is sucide to use a snaffel.....lol
Putting a stronger bit on your horse instead of going thru proper training is asking for it. Go back to a snaffle.

There is no way around this other than going back to the beginning.
     

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