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    05-18-2012, 01:42 AM
Green Broke
Well, she's come a long way.

I bought a seemingly not spooky, calm, yearling at a sale last fall, brought her home and she wasn't so calm or not spooky anymore. Quite frankly, she acted like a wild horse that had never been handled before.

I was pretty disappointed in my $750, I was hoping for a horse I didn't have to work with from complete scratch, like the last horse I broke, but, I got over it.

Well, then we started the long road to trust and just having her be comfortable with being touched and handled.

Slowly, me and my mother got her to the point where we could pet her in the field sometimes, but only if she was in the mood for it. So, a ton of work later....

We got to the point where we could catch her in the field and she would lead, and I got her lunging at the walk a bit, free lunging in the roundpen as well.

And then came time for her first saddle:

Needless to say, that spook cancelled out a fair bit of work.
So, I did MORE work and got her to the point where she would stand to be patted everywhere.
And then today, she got to try out a bit for the first time.
She gave to it both left and right and even backed up with it from the ground.
I also saddled her and she allowed me to put weight in the stirrup on both sides, even though there were a few spooks leading up to it (took me over half an hour) and she didn't spook if I hopped as if I was going to get on.
We then went for an inhand walk around the yard and found all kinds of scary things to sniff.

Oh progress, how I love you!
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    05-18-2012, 01:52 AM
I love progress too.. makes everything inside you feel fuzzy and glowy.

Lovely pictures :)
    05-18-2012, 02:15 AM
Green Broke
I also have a random video to share... You can see her kind of listening to the bit, especially backing up:

    05-18-2012, 09:06 PM
Sounds like you're doing well with her, but you were just unrealistic about your expectations. You bought a yearling, from the sales, put her in a strange environment, so you should indeed have expected a scared, reactive baby.

Please do little if any lunging type activities, until she's mature, and while if you're light, a little careful sitting on her may be OK, but I wouldn't be riding her for a couple of years yet.
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    05-18-2012, 10:02 PM
Green Broke
That's your opinion.

It's not like she came from a random consignor selling a horse they had and couldn't handle. She came from a breeder with many consignments to the sale, as well as many horses to sell off the farm by the looks of their website. I gave her time to settle in, it was after the settling in that she got bad. We only started working on her issues this Spring.

A lot of horses get 5-10 short rides as 2 year olds and left to mature until their 3rd year before any other kinds of real training sets in.

I think that controlled free lunging is better than turning her out in the roundpen and letting her run like crazy (which she did the first time I tried to do some roundpenning with her.) Plus, I'm not stupid. I'm not running her in circles, stopping her hard and driving her the other way. It's more like 15 minutes of walk/trot.

She's 2 right now, and is about 15hh, and is a strong girl, trust me, she's spooked a few times when I've been leading her (not lately, mind you). In my opinion, in a month or so, some short rides are not going to hurt her.

We obviously have different opinions, so please don't try and force yours onto me. There are a lot of people who put a few rides on their 2 year olds, and there are a lot of people who wait until they're 3 or 4. It's my choice, so please do not go telling me what I'm planning on doing is wrong, even if YOU may think it's wrong, there are people who think it's perfectly okay.
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    05-18-2012, 10:50 PM
Amen to that.
    05-19-2012, 12:30 AM
Originally Posted by QHriderKE    
That's your opinion.
Yes, it is. That's what you get on these forums - lots of opinions. I thought that's what forums were mostly about actually. If my post appeared rude to you though, that certainly wasn't intentional but I don't get why you feel 'forced' or in the wrong, except as I said *it sounded* to me like your expectations may well have been. We only have eachother's written words to go on, so there are bound to be misunderstandings, different perceptions, etc. I strive always to be respectful & try not to assume, but I do acknowledge I'm not perfect. I think that's important for all here to keep in mind.

You told that you bought a yearling from sales & were surprised & disappointed when she acted 'spooky' & untrained when you got her home. You said that you'd been lunging her & had put weight on her. I don't think that's a good move *generally*, but you said she was a yearling, not a 2yo for a start. I only have your words to go on. You also didn't say you'd only lunged her a little at a walk & trot.... not that I assumed the opposite, that you'd lunged her hard & long or ridden her much either.

She's 2 right now, and is about 15hh, and is a strong girl, trust me, ... even if YOU may think it's wrong, there are people who think it's perfectly okay.
The reason I think it's not a good move to ride babies or do high impact stuff, particularly on a circle is not so much about strength, but about their bones & joints, esp spine & hocks, not being 'closed' until much later than 2yo. If you don't know about that(NOT ASSUMING you don't BTW), look up Dr Deb Bennett. Yes, I am very aware that many people don't know about or don't care about these considerations, or don't believe they're important, etc. I am just not of that opinion.
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    05-19-2012, 12:41 AM
Yup we are all entitled to our own opinion, and we are also allowed to politely express it.

I agree 100% with Loosie on this one, and I think she expressed it well.
    05-19-2012, 12:49 AM
Green Broke
I don't want this to turn into another "to ride or not to ride a 2 year old" war....
    05-19-2012, 01:56 AM
Originally Posted by QHriderKE    
I don't want this to turn into another "to ride or not to ride a 2 year old" war....

Having had years of experience on forums, I humbly suggest that the best way to avoid a war is to try not to start one.

When I look at this thread what I see is Loosie merely expressing an opinion

Please do little if any lunging type activities, until she's mature, and while if you're light, a little careful sitting on her may be OK, but I wouldn't be riding her for a couple of years yet.
Now if you had just ignored the comment, or said something like, thanks for the information, or thanks for your opinion, then not much chance of a war starting.

Even saying thanks, but I don't agree with you would be fine.

Accusing someone who merely said that they wouldn't ride her for a couple more years, of "forcing their opinion" on you could be seen as an opening shot of a battle
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