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post #1 of 8 Old 05-01-2011, 04:23 AM Thread Starter
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Thumbs down Welsh D x Cob rears a lot.

My friend from my yard has recently purchased a Welsh D x Cob 3 year old. I am currently in the process of breaking him in, he is about 14.1hh. But, whenever he spooks at something, he then spooks again at himself, I sit deep in my saddle and give him the aid to then stand. He does so but when he's standing, he throws his head up and rears.
I'm just wondering if anyone knows what I could do to prevent/stop this behaviour?

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post #2 of 8 Old 05-01-2011, 10:45 AM
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In my experience, the LAST thing you want a spooking 3 year old to do is stand still...with no option to go forward or backwards, up is their only option. Next time he spooks, ask him to walk forward. If he trots off, bring him back to a walk, but forward is your key.

How much ground work was done with him? Maybe some sacking out is in order? How much round pen work and/or long reining? Introductions to new items or potentially spooky objects?

Young horses spooking is normal, but stay calm and urge him forward instead of asking him to stand still. Personally I'd rather have a horse spook forwards or sideways than UP.

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post #3 of 8 Old 05-01-2011, 10:46 AM
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My first thought is to have his teeth checked. If he's rearing after he spooks, its likely that the 'spooking' is causing pain in his mouth.

Rearing horses are as dangerous as it gets. I'd make sure physically everything is fine before determining if its a mental thing.

I personally will not work with or train a horse with a rearing problem when it's mental. Period. Everyone does there own thing of course , it's just not something that I'll do.
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EveningShadows. I shall do so next time I work with him. He had 4/5 months long rening, he met everything he meets now when I ride him. I have done ground work with him since I could ride him, he is really good with everything, just the spooking. I shall let you know tomorrow night how he has gone.
Zaudika, he had his teeth cheeked 4 months ago, he had to have them filed and that was it. I just don't want him to go back to his owner with a rearing problem.
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If you think he is going to spook start moving his hindquarters away from the perceived threat as well as maintaining forward movement. As long as one hind is stepping underneath he can't rear. It takes two hind legs firmly planted (standing) in order to rear. You will feel it coming as he has to bunch his body and he will feel wider. A horse's biggest fear is being attacked in his weakest place, just above the hocks. This is why you will move his quarters away and by allowing him to walk away he will feel safer. Don't force him to face it it will build panic.
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post #6 of 8 Old 05-01-2011, 02:33 PM
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I'm wondering how much experiance you have with breaking. Do you know when something is beyond your ability and you need to send him off to a proffessional?

Rearing is as dangerous as it gets and you do not want this to become a habit at this early stage.

My 4yr old I started breaking when he was 3, I admitted defeat after some rather spectacular explosions in longreins that I just couldnt hold and couldnt seem to get him over, I'm not experianced enough to deal with his issues myself, so I sent him to one producer and she sent him back as she couldnt deal with him.
I then worked with him for a while whilst I was sorting out arrangements. he broke my shoulder when he exploded when I put a saddle on him (despite the fact he had had a saddle on many times previously). He has since gone to anouther Producer who within a week has him longreining with no problems and is working on the saddle issue.

I realy think that if this horse is rearing you need Proffessional help.

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I have took your advice and I have kept him walking, this has really helped and I thankyou all.
I have broke 3 horses before, but, this one has come from more of a less-handled background.

He spooked at something in a bush, I gave him the aid to keep him walking, he did so and he soon calmed down again with no rear. Thanks guys!

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post #8 of 8 Old 05-03-2011, 09:31 AM Thread Starter
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I think I have found the problem, the bit that his owner gave me to put in to work with him, isn't a very nice one. I thought nothing of it, until I put a full cheek snaffle on his bridle, he still spooks, but he doesn't make a big deal out of it, a dog came running up behind and he spun himself round to face the dog, I had to make him stand upto the dog so I gave him the aid to stand, he did so without a rear Thanks xx

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