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    02-19-2008, 10:24 PM
  #1
Foal
Western Pleasure...*sigh* PLEASE READ EVERYBODY!!!!

I know that wp gaits have been very controversial. I think the it has gotten way out of hand and most wp horses are not performing at a natural, pleasureable gait that they should. If you read the AQHA rulebook and go to an AQHA show, many of them are not following the rules and the winners are not what should be acceptable. In the book, it reads that the poll should be at our slightly above the withers. And horses are to be penalized if reins are draped to the point that light contact is not maintained. And faults that will be cause for disqualification are....TIP OF EAR CONSISTANTLY BELOW WITHERS!!! WHAT??






That is Vital Signs are good. She has a tremendous amount of AQHA wp points and is very well known, so she sure has never been dqed for headset!!!!!!



http://hoofcare.blogspot.com/2007/11...-not-what.html

Read this, it explains everything and let me know what you think.
     
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    02-19-2008, 10:32 PM
  #2
Started
I have always qualified to go to the State 4-H Show and as I was reading the rules and stuff, I found out that you would be disqualified if your reins were behind your cinch. I was like WHAT?
     
    02-19-2008, 10:35 PM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by BluMagic
I have always qualified to go to the State 4-H Show and as I was reading the rules and stuff, I found out that you would be disqualified if your reins were behind your cinch. I was like WHAT?
Wow that's strange. That's just a wp rule, right? That's why I don't like wp anymore, some of the stuff about it makes me go
     
    02-19-2008, 10:38 PM
  #4
Started
Its ok here in the regular 4-H shows it just gets so technical it's hard. Lol
     
    02-20-2008, 07:39 AM
  #5
Foal
Whats everybody else think?????
     
    02-20-2008, 08:29 AM
  #6
Yearling
that's so dumb becuase remember the peanut rollers? I think they looked dumb but it was a fad for a while.
     
    02-20-2008, 09:02 AM
  #7
Green Broke
I see you have read the Equss magazine article.

I show Quarter Horse WP and EP. The way that they get most horses to do a almost 4-beat lope is they hobble them or tie them down. I commenly see them bleeding horses, not feeding or watering just so the horse will be lethargic. Basically the horse who is the biggest and has the slowest lope and jog wins. But that's just what I see. Its a huge problem. I have gone to some recent shows and I have noticed that judges are being more picky. I also see draw reins used to tie down horses to force them into a slower lope. Its sickening.
     
    02-20-2008, 09:04 AM
  #8
Green Broke
I also go to state. Reins below the cinch? What? People who win WP at state have their reins well below the cinch. But that's in Ohio
     
    02-20-2008, 11:16 AM
  #9
tim
Weanling
About the headset:

A Level top line is usually the standard.
It's defined as:
-The highest acceptable point being eyes level with withers
-The lowest acceptable point being ear tips level with withers.

The in between area is a cushion for different horses having different comfort zones, and the usual bit of bobbing at the lope.

It's also important to remember that a lot of these "rules" are more like suggestions. You won't get d-qed just because your horse doesn't have the best top line. The rules are guidelines for the judges to base their choices on, not mandates for proper training and exhibition.

Vital Signs are Good is one of the best pleasure horses today. But who knows, maybe on some of the judge cards, points may have been deducted for a slightly low head. It's possible.

With regards to rein pressure, I'm not sure where you're getting that. Maybe you're reading the USEF book instead of the aqha's?

These video's were released in 2003 and they outline the breed standard. You might find them helpful. They were made by the head judge in the AQHA and many other top pleasure experts.

The AQHA Western Pleasure Horse video part 1

The AQHA Western Pleasure Horse video part 2

The AQHA Western Pleasure Horse video part 3

The AQHA Western Pleasure Horse video part 4

The AQHA Western Pleasure Horse video part 5

The AQHA Western Pleasure Horse video part 6

Also, there's another pleasure improvement video in the making that should be released sometime in the fall of this year. It's expected to be a remake of these videos but with a better production value and certain updates on what an acceptable pleasure horse should exhibit.

I hope that helps everyone!
     
    02-20-2008, 11:39 AM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by tim
About the headset:

It's also important to remember that a lot of these "rules" are more like suggestions. You won't get d-qed just because your horse doesn't have the best top line. The rules are guidelines for the judges to base their choices on, not mandates for proper training and exhibition.

Vital Signs are Good is one of the best pleasure horses today. But who knows, maybe on some of the judge cards, points may have been deducted for a slightly low head. It's possible.

With regards to rein pressure, I'm not sure where you're getting that. Maybe you're reading the USEF book instead of the aqha's?
Tim, I am reading the 2008 official AQHA handbook of rules and regulations, and these are the exact words-

(I) Faults the WILL BE cause for disqualification are-
1-Head carried to low (tip of ear consistantly below the withers

THIS IS NOT A SUGGESTION! IT IS A RULE AND IF THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE RULE BOOK HORSES WITh THEIR EARS BELOW THE WITHERS WOULD BE DQED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That rule is a cause for DISQUALIFICATION! Read the AQHA rule book, you will see that light contact is to be maintained!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
     

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