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        01-07-2009, 03:43 PM
      #11
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    Oh!
    Okay FP!
    I gotcha now.
    Well whenever I work her in the arena I do do that, but since I work in a open field I attempt to do that but she only does it on the turns lol and yes, it works, but then as soon as we straighten out she's faster again...

    Apparently I'm going to have to work her in the arena more muddy muddy arena!

    FP, maybe we should just cold turkey the draw reins together lol!
         
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        01-07-2009, 03:59 PM
      #12
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    OMIGOSH! AH! Ok... we can do it... WE CAN!
         
        01-07-2009, 04:10 PM
      #13
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    Do you know how much easier it would all be if we could just work our babies together...?!

    There probably somewhere near the same stage!
         
        01-07-2009, 04:16 PM
      #14
    Super Moderator
    I bet they are... actually... mines probably gone backwards because of the weather... I'm lucky to ride him twice a week... I need a ring... (a real ring)... ugh!
         
        01-07-2009, 04:31 PM
      #15
    Started
    Yeah me too!

    Especially with my knee, I don't ride in the arena with the mud and ugh the weather!
         
        01-07-2009, 04:58 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    I don't know if I used the right word... I thought it was called canting. Like when you are cantering/loping but you are pushing the hind in to the center of the ring while keeping the front end on the rail? So you are cantering/loping at an angle? That will teach her to slow down... I'm not very good at it... someone else might be able to explain it better...

    I don't know how to help you on headset, I'm too dependent on the draw reigns right now and too "naggy" w/ my reign contact... :( Good luck though... I'm very interested in the advice you get on this thread.
    When loping a horses shoulders need to be up and there hip should be slightly in but this should not be used to slow a horse down, this is mearly the position that you want the horse to carry. If it is used to slow the horse down than the position is usually too over exagerated which is not a good thing to teach a horse. It is very unappealing to judges when they see a horse loping sideways down the rail.
         
        01-07-2009, 05:10 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    I still stand by my original advice. The horse still does not know to give to the bit 100% of the time. The difficulty of this increases as you go up in gaits.

    There is no need to be see-sawing, either. You will help the horse more if you learn a more effective way to use your hands. Ride her in a lot of circles, small circles about 15 -20 feet around. Ask for her to bend softly around the circle at whatever gait you are at (the size of the circle increases as you get into the faster gaits). At the same time ask for her chin to come in. The inside hand will be getting her to bend, and the outside hand will control her chin. She can't give her chin if she isn't bending. The bending needs to come first. Lateral flexion is the key to vertical flexion.

    You are missing very important parts in your horse's training. Don't be jumping ahead by using the shank bit right now, and don't think about how she will have to be ridden eventually. She needs to be ridden a certain way right now to instill this training in her. As time goes on she will get much better and more "automatic", and the transition to the shank bit will be very smooth. She's not ready for that yet.
         
        01-07-2009, 06:20 PM
      #18
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    Okay GR, so you're saying...

    I should ride in circles because bending will eventually make her head go down?

    What should I do to get her chin to tuck...?
         
        01-07-2009, 07:02 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Bending her in circles will eventually give you the chin tuck you want. Circles will teach her to flex each way once at a time. When she is ready and you ask for both sides at once she should tuck her chin and drop her head for you. Make sure you are doing a nice give and release when you are doing your circles. You will find that the circles will help her mouth feel nice and soft.
         
        01-07-2009, 07:51 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GottaRide    
    I still stand by my original advice. The horse still does not know to give to the bit 100% of the time. The difficulty of this increases as you go up in gaits.

    There is no need to be see-sawing, either. You will help the horse more if you learn a more effective way to use your hands. Ride her in a lot of circles, small circles about 15 -20 feet around. Ask for her to bend softly around the circle at whatever gait you are at (the size of the circle increases as you get into the faster gaits). At the same time ask for her chin to come in. The inside hand will be getting her to bend, and the outside hand will control her chin. She can't give her chin if she isn't bending. The bending needs to come first. Lateral flexion is the key to vertical flexion.

    You are missing very important parts in your horse's training. Don't be jumping ahead by using the shank bit right now, and don't think about how she will have to be ridden eventually. She needs to be ridden a certain way right now to instill this training in her. As time goes on she will get much better and more "automatic", and the transition to the shank bit will be very smooth. She's not ready for that yet.
    Very nice! I agree.
         

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