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        01-09-2009, 05:56 PM
    Green Broke
    Do you have satellite? RFDTV has a lot of Clinton Anderson shows and almost everything he teaches is perfect training advice for the WP ring. I'd recommend watching some of his shows.

    Other than that, my advice is that if it feels soft then it is. And you want softness and give and not just looks
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        01-09-2009, 06:29 PM
    Nah, I don't have satellite
        01-09-2009, 07:59 PM
    Green Broke
    That stinks :(
        01-09-2009, 08:13 PM
    Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
    I'm sure it did work for you, Delete. But there is a lot of incorrect training going around in the WP world because it teaches a horse to be heavy on the forehand, but in a pretty frame. And you can win a lot this way, because right now, judges are looking for consistency, not correct movement. When you said that headset is everything, I agree with you to some point. In the showring, headset IS everything. If your horse has a bad headset, then you won't place.

    But that doesn't mean you train it before you train proper impulsion and collection.

    If a horse is consistent, AND truly working off it's hind end, its going to beat a consistent horse moving on the forehand every time. It just takes longer, but in the end, you have a better, more-broke horse for your efforts.
    Well said.
        01-09-2009, 08:16 PM
    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    It is always ok to disagree with a training method and it's really helpful to explain WHY you disagree with one but let's all keep it friendly pretty please!

    I think draw reigns are ok. If the rider tries hard not to become dependent on them and you are careful not to allow your horse to move on his forehand but it's hard. It is REALLY hard to push them forward, but hold them back in a frame, maintain headset consistency. It is not easy to hold them in a frame with loose reigns. Draw reigns are not evil when used properly.......
    I agree with this, I use them occasionally depending on the horse, more for a tune-up or whatnot. Just as long as they are used correctly.
        01-09-2009, 08:54 PM
    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    It is always ok to disagree with a training method and it's really helpful to explain WHY you disagree with one but let's all keep it friendly pretty please!
    I agree everyon disagrees and every horse is different when it comes to how you train them. Delete was just trying to give advice about how she trained her horse.
        01-09-2009, 08:56 PM
    Originally Posted by LauraB    
    "Back to Front" is the perfect phrase SaddleUp158. Headset is one of the final steps to making a pleasure horse and you will discover that when everything else is right the horse's headset will come naturally. It is very hard to tell someone in words what to do, it would be better if someone could show you what to do Harlee. It is something that needs to be experienced. If you could scrape up the funds for a trainer I know the perfect one to teach you this. He is in Ohio, he has done all of the professional training on my horse. I started training with him 8 years ago. He is HONEST, an excellent teacher, and has trained some world class horses. He is good enough that I ignore the trainers in my area and haul my horse 5 1/2 hours to him. PM me if you want his name and number. PS, I have never once seen him use drawreins!
    I wish I lived close to Ohio. There arent alot of trainers around here that I like. Theres only one that I like, but I only like how his reining horses turn out.
        01-09-2009, 10:16 PM
    Yes, I am lucky to have such a great trainer, there are not a lot of trainers out there like him.
        01-10-2009, 11:07 AM
    By the way guys, I'm going to call a trainer.
        01-10-2009, 11:50 AM
    Originally Posted by Harlee rides horses    
    By the way guys, I'm going to call a trainer.
    Good for you! Hope you have a blast and learn everything you hope to learn and more. I can't wait until I have my trailer and am able to haul in to a trainer on a weekly basis, instead of just lessons on her horses.

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