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  • 4 inch bit for section b pony
  • 12HH 1/4 BIT

 
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    12-27-2010, 08:27 PM
  #11
Banned
Faye, I compete my mare in a Pelham- not only is it legal, but REQUIRED after fourth level!
I have ridden the horse in question, and the Boucher is nice, but still isn't quite perfect for her! I believe Ak hasn't tried a Pelham yet? I think she is planning to. (Ak, I'd let you borrow mine but it's about two-and-a-quarter inches too small for your gorgeous giant!) i'm not a fan of the loose-ring, especially for jumping- I find the horse can get quite wiggly from the lack of support when doing some exercises, and my horse certainly doesn't like it! I would suggest a fixed ring or Pelham. Perhaps a full-cheek for jumping ( I use different bits on my mare for the different phases of eventing- she likes it that way! )
     
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    12-27-2010, 10:55 PM
  #12
Weanling
Since when has a pelham EVER been legal for dressage? Am I missing something..?

OP::Is your horse really sensitive in his mouth or not sensitive?
     
    12-27-2010, 11:03 PM
  #13
Yearling
A pelham and the curb bit used in a double bridle are not the same. And Pelhams aren't legal.
     
    12-27-2010, 11:11 PM
  #14
Banned
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Originally Posted by MoheganSun    
Faye, I compete my mare in a Pelham- not only is it legal, but REQUIRED after fourth level!

Then you must have ridden is some backyard local unsanctioned show.

You really need to look up the facts. Contact your Equestrian group in whatever country you live in and get the correct information. Might save you some embarrassment if you showed up at a real show with licensed judges and officials.
     
    12-27-2010, 11:13 PM
  #15
Trained
Yep, you are correct eventingwithwinston - Pelhams ARE NOT legal nor acceptable in the Dressage Ring.

Pelhams are a fairly severe bit in themselves, and horses and riders who are ready for leverage will be using a double bridle, so the leverage rein is a separate function in itself.

Go to the USDF website, the list of permitted bits is there, and the Pelham is NOT on that list.

And it is definitely not acceptable in the Eventing World for Dresage Either....

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You really need to look up the facts.
Exactly!
     
    12-27-2010, 11:20 PM
  #16
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Yep, you are correct eventingwithwinston - Pelhams ARE NOT legal nor acceptable in the Dressage Ring.


Phew! Thanks for reassuring me.. in my head I was all "Pony Club don't fail me now!!" hahaha.

And Spyder: I love how you just tell it how it is :)
     
    12-28-2010, 02:58 AM
  #17
Green Broke
Pelhams deffinatly NOT Legal no matter what country you are in.

A double is allowed from medium level onwards in the UK (but at no point is it required, it used to be a requirement but you can now do GP in a snaffle if it suits the horse).

I'd of liked it if a pelham was legal, perticularly if they had allowed ported bits as stan was happiest and most settled in a low ported pelham, however we did dressage in a french link snaffle because of this ruling. He did up to medium level. We tried a double a few times but he simply did not have enough room in his mouth for the 2 bits.

ETA - 2 and a 1/4 inches?? Bloody hell your horses have no mouths, my little 12hh section b is in a 3 and a half inch bit, my 13.2hh riding pony is in a 4 inch!
     
    12-28-2010, 06:10 AM
  #18
Weanling
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Originally Posted by faye    
ETA - 2 and a 1/4 inches?? Bloody hell your horses have no mouths, my little 12hh section b is in a 3 and a half inch bit, my 13.2hh riding pony is in a 4 inch!
Agreed. My horse is a TB with a cob head and goes in a 5 inch and my 13.2 pony from long ago had a 4 1/4 inch bit.

I've never even heard of 2 1/4 in bits.. that is crazy
     
    12-28-2010, 06:14 AM
  #19
Green Broke
It took me forever to get a bit to fit my little 12hh pony. In the end we had to have it made for him as we could not get it in the right size.

This is my lot:
Stan, connemara, 14hh - 6 inch bit
Rian 15hh arab - 4.5 inch bit
Pride 13.2hh british riding pony - 4.5 inch bit
Harvey 12hh section B - 3.5 inch bit
Reeco 15hh - DWB cross section D - 5.5 inch bit (and he has a tiny head for his size)

On the yard there is an 11hh welsh section A pony who is in a 3inch bit as well but he is miniscule in everyway!
     
    12-28-2010, 09:14 AM
  #20
Ak1
Banned
Mohegan is actually I thinktalking about a whemouth... RIght???
     

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