Originally Posted by Palomine
You may also be babying him, and allowing him to get by with things that are now causing this.
Too much soothing, too much trying to be buddies, or letting him get by with something that you don't see as problem, can cause major problems.
Is he pushy, walks off on you, snatches lead out of hand to graze when leading, pushes into you with shoulder/head, is pushy when feeding?
All of those things can lead to this type of thing, in that he is learning he can do what he wants to.
Alternately, it could be rug is too tight, too hot, or has something that is aggravating him. Turn it over so you can see underside, and make sure no hay/straw is stuck in it.
And if you are soothing him by telling him "itssss alllll rigghhhhttt", quit it. That makes a horse worse about everything.
Treat him like you would a mugger and make him behave.
your completely right!! Although I don't want to admit it you are.
Taken on everyones comments and spent time with him today I have been babying him!!
Here are a few points iv looked at and I am taking action on, anything I miss or you can give additional advice please comment as would be great!
* I took to being stern with him today and noticed the above naughtiness he didnt understand that pushing, barging me grazing when he is supposed to be listening to me was being naughty! So I made him listen instead made him stand and gave him a little fuss if he did this without fidgeting (did take time but im a very patient person) told him to walk on when told stop and stand again gave him a little fuss if done without pulling, barging or fuss also back him up with the commant back which I use quite often anyway so he was quick at learning this as when I feed him this is so he doesnt barge me when food is presented.
* I also noticed today that as soon as he does see his food he starts ignoring anything im trying to tell him and is completely focused on his food, with this I made him see his food but wait until he was allowed to have it ( yes this is cruel but hopeing it will show him that when food is presented doesnt mean he is going to get it straight away) this made him very aggitated and stomp his feet and made alot of fuss. I have recently cut his food intake down anyway but im gradually going to cut down until he is on complete forage.
With the haylage I have decided I am going to try the soaking this will have to be done over night or soaked for a couple of hours at a time. (this will be challenging). This will be done until he is completely off sugary and heated foods :) and try and change his food to fibre-beet when he has done work.
* I am going to concentrate with ground work instead of ridden as I want him to learn manners and learn to respect me first.
* I have taken his rug off but im still going to concentrate on getting him to accept a rug without freaking out (fingers crossed)
What are peoples opinions?