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    12-07-2012, 02:33 PM
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Weanling
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Hello all!

I am still here... though I have been away many a month!

Good news arrives with me: we have relocated to a fabulous (smallish) working farm and have some really excellent opportunities here!

I have been trying quite hard to find local trainers offering the services I would like to provide out of our place (starting, basic under saddle work, intermediate under saddle work, packing and perhaps driving in the future), and can only manage to find a few shady looking ads on Craigslist. Most other reputable places I can find are Dressage or HJ barns, and I will (for now) not be offering those kinds of services. I will also not be offering lessons because of liability. Just good ole 5-days-per-week in the arena and on the trail type work. Putting miles on horses, and maybe teaching a few flying changes and sliding stops here and there.

So, my question for anyone who can answer is: how do you go about determining your prices? This will by no means be paying the rent or anything; it is purely a "for fun" type deal, but I would like to be taken seriously and actually have clients that are going to want reasonable things (basically I don't want to attract folks who are looking for the cheapest deal in town and are expecting me to turn their horse/s into PSG mounts!). I want to be able to have a sturdy customer base so that I can network and continue to find clients - with the potential to grow in the future. How would I go about determining my prices?

I would be offering 30/60/90/month-to-month work, with full pasture turnout with shelter, hay, and potentially grain. For more intensive care such as supplements, blanketing, and a stall, I would like to charge a bit more. Does this seem reasonable?

I feel as though I sound like a newbie to this - I am only new to this in the sense of finally having my own facilities to work out of! In the past I have gone to my clients and done very minimal training, so I charged a gossamer amount, if anything.

Lastly if anyone knows, are there any sort of licenses or regulations I need to know about in order to do this? Once again, no one but myself will be riding or working with the animals on the property. I will have clients sign liability waivers just for the mere fact that they could get stepped on or fall into a drainage ditch and twist their ankle, but otherwise I don't believe I need anything else. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I apologize for the rambling post; I have so much swirling through my head as I try to put this into action in the coming months!

Thanks all!

Cheers,
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ETA: We are located in North Carolina, USA.
     
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    12-07-2012, 02:36 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Where are you located?
     
    12-07-2012, 02:37 PM
  #3
Weanling
North Carolina! :) Sorry, I meant to include that.
     
    12-07-2012, 03:35 PM
  #4
Foal
This will probably be less than helpful, but where I live it seems like there is a consistent proportion of 30 days training being = to 30 days full board. So, when I "add in" training to the board, it ends up being 350 for board and 350 for training.
My friend pays 450 and 450. My other friend works her board off and pays her trainer 60 per hour, as needed. The trainer that charged me 25 per hour, was, well, I have found experienced trainers charge more b/c they have earned the ability to...
I am in western ny -

It's not corporate espionage to look online at competitors websites - they may have their prices listed and that may give you an idea of market value around you...

* In NY, trainers have to have some type (?) of certification and insurance- I cannot speak to the specifics but I hear all the grumblings about it :)
     
    12-07-2012, 04:45 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Yea depends what the "market value" is in your area.

I will be taking my 6-yr-old to a reining trainer in Feb/March for 30 days to help me with a few issues with him, and also to teach flying leads, a nice stop (doesn't need to slide), get him better at neck reining (he's horrible), and get him softer in the bridle. Those advanced things that I'm having trouble getting him to understand. Including board (pasture turnout and blanketing) it is going to be $530 for 30 days.

I will be taking my "going to be" 2-yr-old to a trainer in June/July for at least 30 days and he charges $800 for the month. Expensive ... but he's good. I called him in October, and june/july was the earliest he could get him in.

As far as insurance and legal documents and stuff .... can't help you there!
     
    12-07-2012, 05:17 PM
  #6
Yearling
I'm in New England and it's a flat fee up this way. My trainer charges $875 a month for training board. That includes full board, individual turnout, stall because they are not turned out all day, working the horse 5-6 days a week, one coaching lesson a week, blanketing, client pays for any supplements etc. It's all inclusive and personally, I think that way is the easiest.
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    12-07-2012, 05:48 PM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by beau159    
Yea depends what the "market value" is in your area.

I will be taking my 6-yr-old to a reining trainer in Feb/March for 30 days to help me with a few issues with him, and also to teach flying leads, a nice stop (doesn't need to slide), get him better at neck reining (he's horrible), and get him softer in the bridle. Those advanced things that I'm having trouble getting him to understand. Including board (pasture turnout and blanketing) it is going to be $530 for 30 days.

I will be taking my "going to be" 2-yr-old to a trainer in June/July for at least 30 days and he charges $800 for the month. Expensive ... but he's good. I called him in October, and june/july was the earliest he could get him in.

As far as insurance and legal documents and stuff .... can't help you there!
I just wanted to add that the first trainer I mentioned for $530 also includes unlimited lessons for the rider while their horse is being trained. She's over an hour and a half drive one way but you can bet I will be up there every weekend, if not also a couple times a week! I'm going to learn!

The second trainer, I kinda know him personally too, and I've love to come watch him work my young one. I'm pretty sure he won't mind.
     
    12-07-2012, 06:14 PM
  #8
Weanling
Would you all say that not having the ability to ride or work with your horse while it is at my facility would greatly alter what you would be willing to pay, or would that be something you would be willing to work with?
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    12-07-2012, 11:20 PM
  #9
Yearling
It would for me. I would expect the trainer to allow me to ride my horse in their presence if for no other reason than to make sure I handled the horse according to its training. You are not training their horse for you to ride…you are training their horse for them to ride, and I think it only fair that they be able to do so before leaving your facility.
     
    12-07-2012, 11:38 PM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by RunSlideStop    
Would you all say that not having the ability to ride or work with your horse while it is at my facility would greatly alter what you would be willing to pay, or would that be something you would be willing to work with?
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I would not put my horse with a trainer who would not also train me, what's the point? Every trainer has their own 'buttons' that they put on a horse, if the owner of the horse doesn't learn them, then it's a waste of time. I've run into this with Arab trainers, they want to train, ride and show the horse and charge a bunch for it but don't want to teach the owner, and that totally does not work for me. I bought my horse for ME to ride, not some trainer. Sorry if this sounds huffy, it's a particular hot spot with me. I used to pay $1000 month, $1200 for an A show and $5000 for US Nationals and that didn't include any lessons for me, or if it did I could never nail the trainer down to an actual lesson time, add the fact he was 5 hrs away, one way.....PFFFFFT!

I now use a local cow horse guy and he charges $450/month for full board and training in a 24 X 36 corral with a 3 sided shelter, he rode my horse 6 days/week and I could come have a lesson every day if I could make it. He's also a hell of a lot more FUN than the other high end trainer's barn ever was. He also throws in lessons for my non-riding hubby as well, just because he likes us.
     

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