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    08-09-2012, 10:29 AM
REread your title then tell me if you still want to breed her.... Even if you did breed her and she was ok for a couple months I highly doubt that will change her for good. She sounds like she is to much horse for you. And even if you breed her to a "nice wonderful stud" that doesnt mean anything. What happens if your mare is a witch and wont let you near her foal?? Its going to start all over because the foal is going to think, mom hates/runs from that lady so why should I like her? Please reconsider the thought of breeding her.

If you want to keep her it sound likes you need professional help and lots of ground work, otherwise I would also consider selling her and buying something you can enjoy while in college
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    08-09-2012, 10:39 AM
I'm confused as to why people (not just this poster) go to breeding as the answer to fix problems with animals. It happens in the dog world, too. I have never seen an animal who was "cured" by being bred. I think it's a terrible myth that just keeps perpetuating the cycle of unwanted and dangerous animals being thrown into society. Whatever happened to only breeding the best of a line?
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    08-09-2012, 10:40 AM
I personally think you should sell her to someone who isn't afraid of her. She sounds like a pushy, belligerent horse who needs a self confident handler/rider.

No breeding. All you'll wind up with is TWO horses you can't control. Plus, if you're going to college, just who is supposed to take care of mother and baby while you're off getting an education?

If you want to keep her, then BOTH of you need to go to a professional trainer/instructor, so you can learn to properly handle this mare. Otherwise, the horse will behave for the trainer, but once she comes home to you and your wishy-washy ways, she'll revert back.
    08-09-2012, 12:30 PM
Like I said selling her is out of the question. And I do deal with foals and their crazy mothers every day when school comes in. The baby wouldnt be unwanted, and she as wonderful traits about her that I would want to pass on. My bestfriend breaks horses, she's not just a girl who thinks she can do it. And I plan on taking all the horses I get to collage with me. Im going to the equestrian side, so I could board them and work with them everyday. The main resion I wont sell her is because I saved her from an unwanted home. She was my first horse, and I just can't give up on her. She might be to much horse for me, but that dosent matter. I will do what I must to be able to ride her again. I know it might sound like im a dumb butt, but after I came back from the E.R, I went to see her and she just looked at me like she knew what she did and was sorry.
    08-09-2012, 12:59 PM
The FIRST thing you should do is have her checked by a repro vet. The mare be cystic. Throwing drugs (or herbs) at her could possibly worsen the situation.
    08-09-2012, 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by mls    
The FIRST thing you should do is have her checked by a repro vet. The mare be cystic. Throwing drugs (or herbs) at her could possibly worsen the situation.
I fully plan on doing that when I get my trailer.
    08-09-2012, 01:12 PM
She didn't remember what she did. She does not know what she did was wrong. She had no connection to her actions and you being hurt. She doesn't know she hurt you. Horses do not think like that. They do not feel remorse. They do not feel guilty. They do not feel sorry.

She may have sensed you were hurt at the time and responded accordingly. They DO do that but she did not feel sorry for hurting you.

I have seen dogs say "I am sorry. Please don't be mad." in their actions. Horses don't do that.

It is thinking like that which proves you are not ready to handle a foal.

Keep her as a pet for the rest of her life. People do it all the time. My mare would throw herself over backwards as a panic response and if she felt pressure on her head she would panic. This was due to an illness as a yearling. She was the first horse I broke to lead. I make all kinds of excuses for her, and since she won't ever be the problem of someone else, I can make those excuses.

I couldn't imagine taking her to a boarding situation where other people might mishandle my precious nutty lady. They wouldn't be doing anything wrong, but I don't have the time to nor would I want her to mar my reputation of "This is how you work on Pixie's time. Don't do this, this, or this as you would with a normal horse. She is special." and she is. And she can be as long as I have her.

I think college will be a big reality check for you, so I won't say anything on that. My advice is to keep your mare. Suffer through the blood, sweat, and tears to get her where you want training wise. Don't breed her until she is trained. Breeding her equates to giving up. Treat her like a show stallion. Don't breed her until she earns the right to.

Oh god, I didn't think about this, but don't breed her until your senior year! College needs to be number 1! And if you breed her at the end of your junior year, you will have the baby when you graduate. You do NOT need to juggle a crazy mare, college, a job, AND a baby. Dear lord, that would be torture. Don't fool yourself into thinking you will be able to. We ALL think we can do it until we are there.

Good luck with everything
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    08-09-2012, 01:15 PM
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Holy crap, crazy situation.. If you can't sale the mare, have her vet checked like mls has advised, if she's having health issues I'd fix that asap, and then because this is your first horse and she's already "crazy" and unpredictable you really should send her to a trainer who is more experienced with horses like her. Whether caused by you or other factors these behaviors aren't good and that can get you seriously hurt, fast. Even though you think you can handle it, she's already shown you that she will hurt you. It will only escalate and things get worse if not dealt with by someone who really knows what they are doing, and after working with your mare they can also work with you and help you continue to do what they have with your mare.

Absolutely do not breed her. If you are a beginner and you're already having problems with your mare bringing a foal into the situation will only make it worse, if you don't have experience with raising a foal of your own, and being a beginner with horses as well, you do not need any kind of business like raising a foal will be... I did see where you posted that you work with horses at school, that is a completely different situation. There are people there watching/helping you with those horses, foals, and situations. It's completely different than you coming home and being on your own with a horse that has already hurt you..

Please look into getting a trainer before things get worse for you BOTH.

Originally Posted by redfox122194    
The main resion I wont sell her is because I saved her from an unwanted home. She was my first horse, and I just can't give up on her. She might be to much horse for me, but that dosent matter. I will do what I must to be able to ride her again.
The responsible and best thing you can do for you both is to send her to a trainer.. Not your best friend. You might not want to give up on your horse but there comes a time when you have to do what's best for you and the horse, it's just being responsible. If the behaviors aren't corrected you could hurt both of you. You with physical injuries and a horse that knows she can push people around and possibly hurt people to get her way.

Originally Posted by redfox122194    
I know it might sound like im a dumb butt, but after I came back from the E.R, I went to see her and she just looked at me like she knew what she did and was sorry.
Horses don't remember what they did, she's not sorry..
    08-09-2012, 01:36 PM
A tip for getting along with your equine professors. Do not ever say "I know" when they tell you how to do something, even if you do. Say "Okay". It makes a huge difference, as they will be less likely to try and prove how much you don't know. I don't know if you are inclined to say that, it is just a tip from a former student. My nephews do that to me when I am teaching them. I want to choke them out. Lol!
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    08-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Why do I suspect this horse hasn't be corrected for small misbehaviours, which we all know lead to big ones. This behaviour comes about from inconsistancy on the handler's part. The other big mistake made when handlers get in trouble with horses is inappropriate petting/soothing. We can't treat them as tho soothing a toddler to reassure as the horse sees this as a reward. A true reward for a horse is the release of pressure, not words or petting.
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