What do you do for the uneducated?

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What do you do for the uneducated?

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    06-19-2012, 03:22 PM
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What do you do for the uneducated?

So there are some horses at my boyfriends barn that haven't been handled. It's a POA mare and her pintaloosa son...they will let you pet all over them and it's obvious the mare has had training at some point in her life, but the son is just a complete....jerk. I was petting him and he would be just fine then pin his ears and try and take little nips at me. He was acting like a 5 year old bratty kid. Yes, he is cut, but it wouldn't surprise me if he isn't even halter broke. Personally, I wouldn't allow that at my barn, seems like too big of a hazard, plus the fact their feet haven't been trimmed in years I'm sure..

My question is, how do you work with a full size adult horse, that already has its set ways and has never been disciplined or trained by humans? What are te chances of him getting aggressive?

No this isn't something I am actually considering doing, I'm just wondering.
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    06-19-2012, 03:52 PM
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You work them the same way as you would any other horse!
Situation like this and I would have him stabled 24/7 so I could really instil manners, I would just go about it as I would any green horse.
There will be many questions from them in that they will not see the point of you wanting them to do something alien to them. I am persistent, very firm and always fair. They soon really enjoy having something to do.
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    06-20-2012, 03:14 AM
Just as Foxhunter said, just like any other horse. They will learn rather quickly.
    06-20-2012, 04:28 AM
Aires was 15hh and 1200lbs when I bought him as a basically unhandled two-year-old stud colt. He was pushy, a biter and had no clue how to walk on a lead. He would run over me, wouldn't stop when I asked and would invade my space constantly when off-lead. So, we started with leading. If he didn't stop when I asked, he got a smart pop with the halter (a quick downward jerk on the poll/noseband). If he crowded me, he got a hard elbow to whatever body part I was closest to. It took consistent work, but he soon realized that I was in charge and what I said went.

As for the biting, he was nippy at first and he'd get a pop on the nose with the flat of my hand. Then, one day we were walking down the road and he hauled off and latched onto my forearm with his teeth. Ears pinned, pissed off and clamped down. What came next was pure reaction on my part. He had latched onto my right forearm, so my left fist swung around in a beautiful roundhouse punch that connected with his jaw. He got a shocked look for a second...but has NEVER offered to bite me again. If he even ACTS like he's going to nip or even lip me, or anyone else, he gets a pop on the nose or mouth (whichever part is handier).
    06-20-2012, 10:07 PM
Agree with Foxhunter, except the stabling - for health & wellbeing reasons I would avoid that.

Don't blame him - he's just being a horse & doesn't know better. If you're petting him & he pins his ears & you don't 'listen' & stop, of course he'll 'up the ante' to 'tell' you more strongly to bug off. Saying he's like a bratty 5yo kid is a good analogy I reckon. Likewise I don't blame the kid for their behaviour, if no one's taught them manners or good reasons for putting up with something unpleasant. My kids & animals are well mannered in public, but if ever they weren't come to me about it, don't blame & take it out on my kids or animals.
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    06-21-2012, 06:17 PM
Are you being asked to work with this horse? Or just taking the liberty of training him yourself (I see a lot of threads here on this topic, I am just wondering if this is commonplace in the horse world, we had a barn worker at my old barn that only lasted a couple weeks because he took the liberty of "correcting" our horses for us, when horses did nothing wrong, he just got them confused and tried to put them in the wrong stalls, horses are too smart to go into their neighbor's house uninvited!)
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    06-22-2012, 09:48 AM
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Like I stated, this isn't something I am planning on doing. I'm just curious :)
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