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post #11 of 33 Old 06-13-2009, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
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thanks spirit horse that is good to know! Sounds like you really no your stuff! :)
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post #13 of 33 Old 06-13-2009, 07:46 PM Thread Starter
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well I went to the barn and played around in the round pen with my horse and I discovered that me and my horse really don't do good with that kind of stuff...i no it was the first time but something tells me that this kind of method wont really work. Both me and my horse are kind of impatient and my horse got bored after a little bit. This kind of started (the parelli) whenever I was looking for something different to do with my horse for a little while, but today I realized that fo a lazy day my horse would enjoy a nice grooming and grazing. I can get my horse listening to my leg by riding him and doing exercises, I can get him used to water by going through it myself and riding him through it, and we r starting to trail ride soon so that will b fun and interesting. We will b spending time together and bonding. I guess I just needed to look into something totally different b 4 I realized wut was best 4 me and my horse. Sry this is kinda long but sometimes whenever I right down wut I think it makes more sense. Thanks for listening and tell me wut you think of this! Thanks a bunch!
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The friendly game is awesome! It makes your horse much more bomb-proof! Today my friend was paying with her crop as we were sitting on out horses in the ring. It got a little too close to Spirit and he just sat there. Then she tried touching him with it on his forehead, poll, muzzle and he just stood and stared off into the distance. When she tried that with her horse, Dancer freaked out.
See this is my problem. Now this horse is dead to the crop. I know people who have been in emergency situations with there horses where a crop is NEEDED (i.e. Almost getting run over by a car with a horse who was acting up, one very hard smack with the bat saved both of their lives) You have a bombproof horse, but the now just switch off to everything

I've heard too many horror stories out of parelli. My motto, if it isn't broke, don't fix it
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See this is my problem. Now this horse is dead to the crop. I know people who have been in emergency situations with there horses where a crop is NEEDED (i.e. Almost getting run over by a car with a horse who was acting up, one very hard smack with the bat saved both of their lives) You have a bombproof horse, but the now just switch off to everything

I've heard too many horror stories out of parelli. My motto, if it isn't broke, don't fix it
you're right, desensitizing can make a horse "dead" to pressure if there's no sensitizing going on, too.

If there's a balance, as the Parelli and all NH trainers teach people to use....a balance between despook and sensitize (teach the horse to yield to pressure)....then the horse will be able to tell the difference between a crop that's just being waved around ("you're not asking me to move") vs. a pattern of pressure (squeeze of calves, "kiss" then a tap of the crop = "you want me to move").
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I agree with Calamity. There is a difference b/w making a horse dead and making a horse calm with things when there is no reason to be worried.

To the OP....it sounds like you are a very extroverted person. That's great! However, the 7 Games *might* seem boring to you, but as a skill you must learn patience. Not just in horsemanship, but in everything. You have to understand that those 7 Games are your foundation for EVERYTHING you do with your horse. Your horse sounds like an introvert. For introverts, you need to slow things down and give them time to think, which will be hard for your personality, but you can do it. And if you were working your horse in the round pen at liberty when you said things didn't work, well, that's your problem. Starting at liberty isn't a good thing to do, it just sets you and the horse up for failure. Does all that make sense?
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I disagree strongly with that. Just because you can touch a horse all over with a crop does not mean in any way that he's desensitized to it. My horse has zero fear of whips, I can poke her all over with a crop, and she still boogies at warp speed if I crack her across the butt with it. You're implying that a horse listens to a crop because they're scared of it. I could hold a sweater up to my mare and have her not bat an eyelash, but the minute I use it to slap her, she's going to pay attention. It has nothing to do with WHAT object you're using, it's HOW you're using it.

Now if you could smack a horse in the face with a crop and he just stood there staring stupidly at you, then I'd be REALLY concerned.

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Who was your post in response to Mikolaj?
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Dreamrider, I was in your shoes a few months ago. Ready to give up.
Learn your horses horsinality. This will help you. It works. Plus lots and lots of patience.
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post #20 of 33 Old 06-14-2009, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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well I don't really think my horse keeps to himself or anything...maybe I made it sound like that *sry* he is actually really curious excited happy etc. im not giving up completely on the parelli stuff and yes I agree I do need to learn patience lol! Im not going to do the parelli stuff yet, I mean its not the only thing that will strengthen a bond-just spending time with ur horse will help that. But ya I may go back to it, I just don't feel like this is the right time to do it. I no my horse and I just don't think this is the right method to use, recently we have been more of the excitement type. By the way if you were curious y I started tlking about wlking thru water listening to leg aids etc. I thought some of the parelli games might help that (i thought I wrote that in a confusing way) even tho I am dropping it right now if you have any more advice feel free to share. Thanks! :)
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