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post #21 of 33 Old 06-14-2009, 09:20 PM
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The 7 games, like I said, is your foundation for ANYTHING you do with your horse. Because what do you do with your legs when riding? You use steady pressure. Getting the horse to yield to and from steady pressure is game #2, the procupine game. The first 3 games are your principle games, meaning that ANYTHING you do with your horse can be linked back to those first 3 games. So any problem you have, such as a horse not yielding to the rider's leg for instance, you can link it back to game #2 in this case. If a horse is spooky, that can be linked to game #1, the friendly game.....this shows you a hole in your foundation.
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its a great method really...im just not sure im going to do it or not-this was kind of just a thread to get to know the method and see if i wanted to use it and right now im not sure i do. maybe later i will but for now there are other ways to learn things. i can clearly c how great it is tho especially from spirithorse but like i have been saying im not sure i want to do it...im researching different things for fun and this was one of them i wanted to look into. thanks! and still of course feel free to post b/c i find this method interesting and i think its something good to know. :)
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I will say a little something on the other end here. I am strongly against Parelli. The physical effects that the work has on the horse are very noticeable when you know what you are looking for. Just the other day, I walked into the office at the barn I manage and one of the staff people was watching a Parelli video, I just glanced up and said "man, that horse looks like crap, it looks lame!". The person watching the video, an avid Parelli fan, just said "thats......thats Remmer, he's Linda's horse".

The majority of people that I see do not know how to pick out small changes in horses bodies. Something that looks practically crippled to the trained eye looks "like a horse" to most people, including the average horse owner. I have seen Parelli people try to make horses with serious physical issues jump barrels, since "Parelli does it". Not only that, but I see that they put too much faith into the activities that the horse is doing and not the state of mind that the horse is performing these activities in.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but from the physical point of the horse, its not the best thing to "give to pressure" if the rest of the body is in a compromised posture.

Aside from that, the equipment and the story behind it drives me nuts, I about died the first time I saw a "cradle bridle".

There are many ways to create a bond with your horse, the best way is by understanding it. Parelli does a lot of work with the horses mind, but the physical aspect is left out. Please leave your options open and make sure you are working with a good trainer outside of the Parelli world along with your Parelli work.
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post #24 of 33 Old 06-15-2009, 03:58 PM
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Flitterbug - I agree with a lot of what you said. I really dislike the border "dead" appearance so many serious Parelli horses have. It's like they're on autopilot, and not even allowed to have a personality anymore because they've become so fine tuned to listen constantly to their trainer/owner. It's for that reason I prefer modifying my own training plan, which allows me to "play" with my horse, but she clearly is having fun to.

I'm a bit of a different horse owner though, I like to encourage a bit of independence in my horses. Aside from knowing they can't get away with garbage that's dangerous to people, I prefer to allow them to "be horses" as much as I can.

I guess I can't have much of an opinion on Parelli since I've never done strictly Parelli, I just never like watching videos. What people call "bond", I just see as a horse being almost overboard obediant. However, I don't condemn people who enjoy Parelli. To each their own, I just firmly believe there are MANY training methods, and everyone should find one that works best with their horse.

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post #25 of 33 Old 06-15-2009, 04:39 PM
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My two cents -

You should not go into training a one thousand pound animal with the attitude it's a game.

I am NOT my horse's equal. Yes we are partners but I am the alpha and I demand respect. If I were to 'play' with my horse, that respect would be seriously compromised.
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If a horse is going on auto-pilot and isn't thinking, he's just doing, than that horse's owner has over done things and has not kept the horse's mental needs in check. Each horse is different....some horses need consistency while others need variety.....some horses need you to go really slow, while others need you to go very fast and keep things moving.

And I play with my horse, and I always have his respect ;) If the horse feels like it's always work, well, that's no life. Where's the fun in that? I like the saying, "If horses are recreation for us, can we be recreation for them?"
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post #27 of 33 Old 06-15-2009, 06:37 PM
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I have a $10 rope halter. My friend whp I ride with has a 'Parelli' rope halter. They both work the same, look the same, and have been lasting the same. The only difference is a random piece of leather that says 'Parelli' on it. I think i'll stick with my $10 halter :]

OP, I want to say, you DON'T have to do these games to get/have these skills. I never really knew what Parelli was until I was a fairly experienced rider, and guess what? My horse and I already HAD all the skills the games teach. Moving off pressure, body language, etc. They were a part of my riding and handling with no games and no expensive gear in sight.

I daresay the games are a great tool for those new to horses, or those who need help interpreting their horses body language, etc. But don't let Parelli be you be all and end all. EVERY time I have met someone who ONLY practices Parelli, and shuns other methods/schools of thought, they have had huge issues with their horses, and their own interaction with their horses.

OP, it sounds like you are on the right track. Work with your horse in a way that feels comfortable and correct for YOU and YOUR horse, not what works for other people. You need to try things out, take what works, discard what doesn't, and make your own way. No two horses are the same, no two people are the same, and no program can work for 100% of horses or people.

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post #28 of 33 Old 06-15-2009, 06:47 PM Thread Starter
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see this is what i love about posts...i get to see different views! :) i have found that with myself im a BIG overthinker and jump into an idea way to quick and my horse picks up on that, for now instead of worrying about all of this i am just going to relax and do wut feels best and keeps me at ease! lol! i really need to gain patience (i have it with some things but with others WHOA!) lol! thx! keep continuing this conversation i want to keep seeing all these diff views
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post #29 of 33 Old 06-15-2009, 06:55 PM
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I like them so long as people aren't so closed minded that they are convinced this is the ONLY way to train a horse (that goes with all types of horsemanship, not just Parelli). Not every method works for every horse. Cougar loves the 7 games. We only did a level 1 clinic to try it out. Get first hand experience to make a proper judgement. My 30 year old pony? Just no. She responds much better to traditional training approaches.

I say give it a bash. It can open your eyes to new things you never thought you could do with your horse. Or it could not be for the pair of you.
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post #30 of 33 Old 06-15-2009, 08:21 PM
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wild_spot you absolutely right. The only reason i have the parelli halter etc. is caz i went to a parelli seminar & it was cheaper to buy it all in a pack than just the dvd's etc. :)
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