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post #1 of 12 Old 07-15-2008, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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what does it mean to be...

collected and on the bit? sorry its prolly a stupid question but im just wondering! thanks.

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post #2 of 12 Old 07-15-2008, 07:44 PM
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In simplified terms. collected means to have your horse rounded and moving off his rear. He will have his head on the verticle with very light contact with his mouth - said to be "on the bit". He will feel very light on his front end and you should be able to feel the power as he drives with his rear.

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ok now another question. what does it mean to have his head on the verticle

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It means his face is perpendicular to the ground. If his nose is in front of vertical he is said to be in front of the bit, and if he is too tucked then he is behind the bit. SO.... in proper position, he is on the bit.

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alrite so this is what on the bit looks like-


and behind the vertical-


and in front of the vertical-

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post #6 of 12 Old 07-15-2008, 09:14 PM
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Excellent. The bottom pic is marginal but that's the ticket!

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post #7 of 12 Old 07-15-2008, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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the bottom pic was the only one i could find.

thanks so much for your help!

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post #8 of 12 Old 07-17-2008, 06:09 PM
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In simplified terms. collected means to have your horse rounded and moving off his rear. He will have his head on the verticle with very light contact with his mouth - said to be "on the bit". He will feel very light on his front end and you should be able to feel the power as he drives with his rear.

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I really agree with this explanation.



That's the idea.
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post #9 of 12 Old 07-17-2008, 09:29 PM
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That second pic is Rollkur!!! That just looks painful. You're looking for the horse to "break" at the poll, the bone between his ears is is the pivot point. Rollkur is when they break at the next vertebrae back.
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That second pic is rollkur!!! That just looks painful. You're looking for the horse to "break" at the poll, the bone between his ears is is the pivot point. rollkur is when they break at the next vertebrae back.
... and it is very controversial but widely used in dressage and in other disciplines as a means of suppling a horse called "hyperflexation". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9r9...elated&search=

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