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    07-15-2008, 08:33 PM
  #1
Green Broke
what does it mean to be...

Collected and on the bit? sorry its probably a stupid question but im just wondering! Thanks.
     
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    07-15-2008, 08:44 PM
  #2
Showing
In simplified terms. Collected means to have your horse rounded and moving off his rear. He will have his head on the verticle with very light contact with his mouth - said to be "on the bit". He will feel very light on his front end and you should be able to feel the power as he drives with his rear.

(never be sorry for a question - it's how we learn)
     
    07-15-2008, 08:47 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Ok now another question. What does it mean to have his head on the verticle
     
    07-15-2008, 08:53 PM
  #4
Showing
It means his face is perpendicular to the ground. If his nose is in front of vertical he is said to be in front of the bit, and if he is too tucked then he is behind the bit. SO.... in proper position, he is on the bit.
     
    07-15-2008, 09:00 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Alrite so this is what on the bit looks like-


And behind the vertical-


And in front of the vertical-
     
    07-15-2008, 10:14 PM
  #6
Showing
Excellent. The bottom pic is marginal but that's the ticket!
     
    07-15-2008, 10:21 PM
  #7
Green Broke
The bottom pic was the only one I could find.

Thanks so much for your help!
     
    07-17-2008, 07:09 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by iridehorses
In simplified terms. Collected means to have your horse rounded and moving off his rear. He will have his head on the verticle with very light contact with his mouth - said to be "on the bit". He will feel very light on his front end and you should be able to feel the power as he drives with his rear.

(never be sorry for a question - it's how we learn)
I really agree with this explanation.



That's the idea.
     
    07-17-2008, 10:29 PM
  #9
Yearling
That second pic is Rollkur!!! That just looks painful. You're looking for the horse to "break" at the poll, the bone between his ears is is the pivot point. Rollkur is when they break at the next vertebrae back.
     
    07-18-2008, 09:14 AM
  #10
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by palogal
That second pic is rollkur!!! That just looks painful. You're looking for the horse to "break" at the poll, the bone between his ears is is the pivot point. Rollkur is when they break at the next vertebrae back.
... and it is very controversial but widely used in dressage and in other disciplines as a means of suppling a horse called "hyperflexation". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9r9...elated&search=
     

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