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post #1 of 26 Old 01-11-2012, 09:36 PM Thread Starter
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What to expect after 30 days of professional training?

Well, I've decided to take the plunge and send my guy to a month of professional training. He's 7 years old and is broke. Can w/t/c stop and back up but needs work on it. I went over with the trainer that I would love for him to be able to neck rein, be quiet on the trails and while in the ring (he's somewhat quiet now. Nothing dangerous and I am by no means expecting a 100% bombproof horse at the end of the 30 days...) and just know his transitions. Just daily riding...ya know?

Well I saw this thread in another forum and was wondering, what would you guys expect from a 7 year old coming back from 30 days of training?

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Well a much better trained mount would be my guess :P

Though since he has new tricks that he learned, he may try to test you to make sure you're still in charge. But that's my guess...

My horse's old owner was a trainer and when she got clients and trained them and sent them back.. she had to go there and kind of go over what she taught the horse and the cues and watch to see if the owner was going to be alright or if they needed help. Especially if they were sent for behavioral issues.
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I would suggest you discuss this with the trainer so that you are totally realistic. 30 days is NOTHING. Frankly, I think your expectations are unrealistic, but that's just me. My trainer insists on 90 day minimum, then, MAYBE I can get on my horse again with his direct attention. And mine was dead broke-we are just in reining training. You are also well advised to spend as much time as possible absorbing all the knowledge you can about what your horse is being taught, and I woud suggest that the traier work with both of you after the 30 days.

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Well I am taking lessons on him while he is there so we can learn together. I know my expectations might be unrealistic but that's what I also what I eventually want out of him. I discussed with her that I would send him there for 2 months but she said her goal is to start the foundation for both of us.
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It really depends on the horse. I had a trainer work with my gelding Trooper, who had been spurred bloody on a ranch in Colorado and had bad trust issues. 5 weeks later, he was good for general riding again, and another year of regular riding has turned him into a pretty trustworthy horse.

I hired the same trainer to work with my spooky mare Mia. After 2 weeks, she concluded Mia never had the basics, in spite of the fact that I had ridden her for 3 years. I had as few injuries as I did, she thought, because Mia and I tried to work with each other. But I put her into professional training because when she started spinning up, she KEPT spinning up. She had been sold to me as a thoroughly broke horse for a beginner, but she was confused by bits and didn't know how to give to pressure.

The trainer and I talked about it, and started her back at the very beginning. After 8 weeks of training, she was ridden at a walk for the first time today, for about 5 minutes. But she is a very different horse than Trooper. She is very slow to learn. When she learns, she learns it solid. Her progress has been 3X slower than Trooper, with the same trainer.

So what should you expect? No one knows. But when I hire a trainer, I tell them up front to take their time. I'd rather have my horse get a solid foundation, whatever it was that I could afford, than to have the trainer take short cuts. IMHO, a trainer who says, "I can do X in Y days" is blowing smoke up your butt. Maybe he can with one horse, but not with another.

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I agree with bsms, it really depends on the horse.
His issues, if he has any, his learning speed(mental capabilities), and athletic ability-
Matched with your trainers abilities.

If he has no issues, smart and athletic he is going to progress pretty fast. Any issues is going to slow that progress, especially bad habits. That is why most trainers prefer a horse that hasn't been messed with....clean slate, don't have to fix someone else's mistakes.
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When I first bought my horse, he was the definition of a psycho, spooky, green horse. For example, he did not have a right lead, could not go half a circle without trying to buck you off, spooked at anything that moved, would buck and rear whenever another horse would come near him in the arena, could not jump a fence, and could not canter on either lead without swapping in the back in less than 4 strides of being on the lead, and would take off afterwards. I put him in professional training with my trainer for 30 days, and after the 30 days I had him going to a horse show with a lead change being 60% there, could get around a 2'6-2'9 course with no refusals (though he was never one to refuse), had his leads straight, didn't spook, and could be in the arena with other horses no problem. We actually got placed pretty well considering the circumstances too!

Depending on the trainer and the horse, what you want isn't completely out of the question. Like it has been suggested above, talk to the trainer about what he thinks he can accomplish with the horse. You know your horse better than anyone else, so depending on the trainers ability and way of training, it could go either way. Good luck! :)
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Well she never told me he will have this done in x days and this done in y days. I wana send him there for atleast 2 months (depending if he rly needs it and if I can afford it) but what she was explaining to me was that she wants to start a foundation for the both of us to work off of and do together. I didn't exactly start this thread to say "oo what do you think my horse will know in a month!!!" because I know that's a nearly impossible guess as every horse is different. Was wondering if you had sent a 7 year old or however old horse into training what would you expect out of them in 30 days.
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...Was wondering if you had sent a 7 year old or however old horse into training what would you expect out of them in 30 days.
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But that IS the problem - what horse? Trooper? Mia? What if I sent Cowboy, my BLM mustang who had done barrel racing (as a pony - he's only 13 hands), worked on a ranch and been a lesson horse? Mia has taken far longer to sack out than Trooper, and she has panicked about things that didn't bother him. Yet I had ridden her at least 10 times more often than Trooper.

It depends on what the horse knows, the bad habits, the horse's speed in learning, etc. And none of us know your horse...

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It was just a generalized statement. I'm not asking anyone to tell me what my horse is going to know. I wanted to know YOUR expierences like being you sent your horses in what did they learn in the 30 days. I'm not asking anybody to tell me that "oh your horse is going to Learn this and this!" because I know no one can tell me that. Just what your
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