I sent a 4 year old to a trainer for 60 days. He had been saddled but not ridden. I had done alot of ground work with him as well. He came back solid in w/t/c with a good stop on him. He was able to side pass fairly well and was calm. He has never bucked and is not touchy/spooky about the saddling process. I could get on him and go for a trail ride without being to worried that he and I would not return together. My trainer is a rancher so the horse was exposed to roping, herding, gathering and arena work as well. He had even helped hold a calf while doctoring was done. I got back a well started horse with no serious vices that was ready to go forward in whatever discipline I wanted to try.