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        10-28-2009, 04:24 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    Oh I disgree! If the horse has a melt down when it hits the pressure of the bit with the side reins, there is no redemption. I've trained horses I would classify as claustrophobic when it comes to sudden pressure.

    Side reins are a short cut.

    You keep them long so they arent forced into a frame, but if they try to fling their head around they will feel it, this way if they try it once you get on they wont flip out with you on their back.

    I don't see how its a short cut, its a training tool so your horse doesnt have to be hit with 10000000 new things the first time you ride
         
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        10-28-2009, 04:39 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Personally, I like a thinner bit. Rubber bits are just too much stuff in the mouth for a horse who has never had anything! A thinner bit is less in the mouth, lighter, and has a bit of extra oomph if you need it to shut down a buck, etc.

    A friend and I are starting a horse soon, and we just bought him this bit:



    But we were looking for this, only you can't get it in AUS:



    The straight sides help the horse understand turning, by applying pressure to the other side of the face.
         
        10-28-2009, 05:02 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    Personally, I like a thinner bit. Rubber bits are just too much stuff in the mouth for a horse who has never had anything! A thinner bit is less in the mouth, lighter, and has a bit of extra oomph if you need it to shut down a buck, etc.
    Thin bits are a BIG no no if you don't have soft hands. Thin bits can be very severe, but if used properly, they are perfectly fine.
         
        10-28-2009, 05:05 PM
      #14
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    Personally, I like a thinner bit. Rubber bits are just too much stuff in the mouth for a horse who has never had anything! A thinner bit is less in the mouth, lighter, and has a bit of extra oomph if you need it to shut down a buck, etc.

    A friend and I are starting a horse soon, and we just bought him this bit:



    But we were looking for this, only you can't get it in AUS:



    The straight sides help the horse understand turning, by applying pressure to the other side of the face.
    i agree, I go with thinner bits as well, not twisted wire or anything, but not something that is going to be too much or uncomfortable for a baby. Also about the straight sides...i like the more direct pressure of a dring or full cheek
         
        10-29-2009, 01:05 AM
      #15
    Trained
    I start a horse in some kind of snaffle bit; my first few rides are normally with a rope halter though as that is what they have been extensively worked with, as far as learning how to give to pressure. I do get them used to the bit, I just don't ride them right away in it; and often I wind up riding 'mostly' with the halter...Lol!

    I don't ride in side reins or draw reins (if I use them on that horse) until much later; they may be getting used to them on the ground with a syrcingle, but that in no way means that they will still understand it from the saddle right away.
         
        10-29-2009, 01:58 PM
      #16
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
    you keep them long so they arent forced into a frame, but if they try to fling their head around they will feel it, this way if they try it once you get on they wont flip out with you on their back.

    I don't see how its a short cut, its a training tool so your horse doesnt have to be hit with 10000000 new things the first time you ride

    May I ask how many horses you have started?

    You want them to feel the bit free and unrestricted. I am not going to fight 1000 pounds of horse flesh.
         
        10-29-2009, 10:03 PM
      #17
    Started
    I always start riding with a halter OR sidepull.
    If a bit is needed I too feel a rubber bit is "to much" in a horses mouth, I go with a reasonably thick gentle o ring snaffle.
         
        10-29-2009, 10:08 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Thin bits are a BIG no no if you don't have soft hands. Thin bits can be very severe, but if used properly, they are perfectly fine.
    There is no bit that is gentle if you don't have soft hands - Except for no bit!
         
        10-29-2009, 10:15 PM
      #19
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    May I ask how many horses you have started?

    You want them to feel the bit free and unrestricted. I am not going to fight 1000 pounds of horse flesh.
    you don't do it the first time they have a bit, & certainly not the first time you lunge. But I would before you ride with a bit for the first time.

    I've started enough horses by myself & with a trainer I ride with [we ride at the same barn & she is kind of my mentor] to know that it works for me & my style. Not saying you have to, but I believe it is a good idea
         
        10-30-2009, 08:51 AM
      #20
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    There is no bit that is gentle if you don't have soft hands - Except for no bit!
    I understand what you are saying. Any bit can be used in a way that will harm the horse. But in comparison with the other thicker bits, thin bits can be worse.
         

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