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        04-29-2009, 09:39 PM
      #1
    Foal
    What would cause this behaviour???

    I have a 5 yo gelding, whom I have owned since he was about 6months old.. I have known him since he was just a few days old, and became instantly attatched to him... The problems I am having with him seem to be jealousy of my time with other horses, but he also acts this way with men that I am close with...

    First off when I first got Gypsy, he was put in a pasture with my 2 geldings after he got settled in for a few days... He did not like my gelding Bubba getting anywhere near me at all... I made the mistake of taking Bubba riding one day without closing the gate behind me, he tried to rear up and kick at my gelding... He would then just run the other horses off when I tried to spend any time with them... I do spend equal time with them so its not like he is neglected or anything.. Maybe he sensed Bubba was my favorite?? When I had BUbba put to sleep 2 years ago, his behaviour seemed to get worse..

    My next example is when I first introduced my husband to him, he was very jealous and didnt want my husband talking to me or anything.. If I was talking to him, he would walk between us and put his head up so I couldnt speak to my husband at all... He hasnt showed any aggression to my husband other than moving between us and not allowing us to talk... Now that he is older and accustomed to seeing my husband I have no problems with him... He has never done anything like this with my Dad, brother,farrier, or the trainer... (All of them are Males)

    I also had an occurance today when I had a friend (male) out to hunt morel mushrooms.. I went in the house and told my friend to go ahead and start looking for them by the horses that I would be out in a minute.. I went in the house and came back out and Gypsy had gone with him down the hill...My friend said he followed him around and didnt act up with him at all.. He never showed signs of aggression.. When I came out of the house and went to the gate, he went running up to the fence and stood there while I let myself in.. I then went to join my friend to hunt mushrooms and Gypsy would NOT leave my side.. He doesnt invade my personal space, but he just stuck next to my side and would not leave.. When my friend and I started walking up the hill with me, Gypsy started to get moody with my friend and would kinda do a half rear at him... I then disciplined him and told him NO in a firm voice... HE would prick his ears forward and its like he knew that he did wrong, but once my friend switched sides to get away from him Gypsy switched sides and went at him again... I once again discpilined him but this time I smacked him on the shoulder and told him NO in a very firm voice... Well once again he went after my friend, and this time my friend yelled at him and told him NO and shooed him off, but he came back again and was trying to kick at him with his front feet...

    I really am clueless as to what is causing this, it could be a dominance thing, or it could be a lack of respect, but I really don't have a problem when its just the 2 of us... ALso he only does this with males, and its not just any male because he doesnt do it with my dad, brother, trainer and or my farrier.. I have never had a problem with any females either.. So does anyone know why my horse is acting like this??

    Thanks for reading, Sorry its so long
         
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        04-29-2009, 09:57 PM
      #2
    Weanling
    He probably sees you as HIS mare, and gets jealous like a stallion would with his mares.
    That's all I have.. I don't know how you could fix it though, sorry. Someone will probably have something better.
         
        04-29-2009, 10:07 PM
      #3
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Trinity    
    He probably sees you as HIS mare, and gets jealous like a stallion would with his mares.
    That's all I have.. I don't know how you could fix it though, sorry. Someone will probably have something better.
    Thanks for the advice, I was thinking he was kinda acting like a stallion, but what would cause him to act that way with some guys but not all of them...
         
        04-29-2009, 10:11 PM
      #4
    Weanling
    Maybe he feels the closer people in your life are rival "stallions" and he wants to prove that he's stronger then they are, to make sure you stay his.
    After he got used to your hubby, he may have just accepted him as a non threatening "stallion" so learned to accept his presense. Maybe even saw him as lead. I don't know the full extent of his trust in your hubby though, so I can't say that for sure.
    The farrier he probably knows as something that he's been around his whole life, and as for your brother and father, he can probably tell some how you are family or something. Im not to sure on that one though.
    If this makes sense?
         
        04-29-2009, 10:31 PM
      #5
    Started
    I would carry a lunge whip/training stick with you whenever you are around him. He doesn't see you as alpha, he sees you as HIS herd. It's actually a compliment, but it's something that needs to be fixed. Anytime he shows aggression or attitude toward someone, or if he tries to get your attention away from someone as in crowding or like what he did with your husband, chase him away with your stick. You don't have to yell, just drive him away. In this way you are showing dominance over him. The more intensity he has, you use that much intensity and add just a tad more to get your point across. Make sense?
         
        04-29-2009, 10:38 PM
      #6
    Weanling
    What kind of training does this horse have? I think he needs to learn more respect, he shouldn't rear at anyone. Maybe if you can a guy that is gentle to work with him so he learns their not so bad. Its hard to say why without seeing whats happening and being right there when it does.
         
        04-29-2009, 11:31 PM
      #7
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Flyinghigh12    
    What kind of training does this horse have? I think he needs to learn more respect, he shouldn't rear at anyone. Maybe if you can a guy that is gentle to work with him so he learns their not so bad. Its hard to say why without seeing whats happening and being right there when it does.

    I know the horse personally as I have worked with him before as well. I know its not a respect issue, but more of a jelous reaction, he is a very gentle boy. I kinda believe on the lines of what others have said he sees the OP as HIS herd.

    The part the OP and I can not figure out is WHY only certain people he gets jelous with, only men. My fiance can go in the pasture with her and he is perfectly fine (he has only been there once or twice), our father or brother can go in just fine as well but with this I am assuming because he sees them almost on a daily basis. With the trouble Gypsy started today tho, this guys has been a long time friend but has only been out there once before. The first time Gypsy did nothing then this today..... kinda weird. I think if the OP started sending him away that will work.
         
        04-30-2009, 05:16 AM
      #8
    Foal
    THanks for the response everyone, I will try working with the sending him away.. Like I said though he doesnt do it to every male and he doesnt bother with females at all... Its just males that I seem to be good friends with or really close to...
         
        04-30-2009, 05:21 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    While it's very "Disney" and all, it's unacceptable. I'm sure deep inside your kind of feeling good about him acting this way. I'm also sure your not alone in this feeling. LOL

    If this behavior is allowed to continue it will escalate, guaranteed. What happens if it's a child that's walking with you and he makes contact.

    I totally disagree with the fact that him seeing you as HIS herd is a compliment, that's lack of respect. A compliment would be if he see's you as the alpha horse.
         
        04-30-2009, 05:58 PM
      #10
    Started
    It's not lack of respect. It's just how he sees his "world" and while it's certainly not a desireable behavior it's "better" than the horse saying "You can have her, I don't want her!" and running away or acting afraid. Neither extreme is what we want, but I still stick to my original opinion.
         

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