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        07-31-2011, 10:28 PM
      #31
    Foal
    OK, this is getting out of hand. I want to make it absolutely clear that I do NOT know the horse nor the rider! I also did not ask for a critique on this horse or the rider, I simply wanted to know if this is still they way we are showing WP or not. This horse was just an example I've found of what is winning even at our shows. It was NOT my intention to possibly mess up a sale because after all, according to the description in the video that horse has accumulated AQHA points so it can't be THAT bad. I am sorry if I came across as anything other than someone who is seeking advice on how to show WP.....
         
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        08-01-2011, 08:13 PM
      #32
    Foal
    Watching that makes me want to put the poor horse out of it's misery. That's the most unnatural, horrible, ugly looking movements I've ever seen a horse do (by no fault of the horse). Poor creature, that is painful to watch and doesn't look to be any fun at all to ride... Gross. IMO I see nothing left of the horses natural spirit at all.
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        08-01-2011, 09:15 PM
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    I thought there was a new rule stating the horse's head must be level with it's body and not performing a "peanut roll"
         
        08-01-2011, 09:23 PM
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    Originally Posted by jumanji321    
    I thought there was a new rule stating the horse's head must be level with it's body and not performing a "peanut roll"
    Yes, there is a rule that states the head will not fall more then 2 inches below the withers for more then a few minutes at a time. Also the horse is supposed to move in a forward moving lope.
         
        08-01-2011, 09:25 PM
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    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    Yes, there is a rule that states the head will not fall more then 2 inches below the withers for more then a few minutes at a time. Also the horse is supposed to move in a forward moving lope.
    They obviously aren't doing a very good job enforcing it then.
         
        08-01-2011, 09:29 PM
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    That horse may not be in the ribbons though. Does the ad say it has points?
         
        08-01-2011, 11:06 PM
      #37
    Green Broke
    Such a pretty horse...... and I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

    I don't know how much is training and how much is physical, but I would be afraid this horse wouldn't stay sound enough to ride.

    Such a pretty rose gray too. I hope someday my foal makes it to this shade of gray.

    Doesn't the rider realize how silly this looks? The horse kicks up sand with every stride. It's like it's feet are stuck to the ground.
         
        08-01-2011, 11:18 PM
      #38
    Green Broke
    I just went and watched a few other WP horses on U-tube.

    Is it the goal of Western Pleasure trainers and riders to turn perfectly young, beautiful horses into broken down old nags? Because that's what they look like moving around. Broken down old nags. Not young, healthy horses you would actually want to ride.
         
        08-01-2011, 11:24 PM
      #39
    Weanling
    I ended up watching a girl work her young WP horse today in real life and while it wasn't quite as bad as the video it was similar in movement and awkwardness. My understanding is the girl and her horse do fairly well at shows so I am thinking this sort of movement is, in fact, what they are looking for in wp...
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        08-02-2011, 12:13 AM
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    Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
    I just went and watched a few other WP horses on U-tube.

    Is it the goal of Western Pleasure trainers and riders to turn perfectly young, beautiful horses into broken down old nags? Because that's what they look like moving around. Broken down old nags. Not young, healthy horses you would actually want to ride.
    I once saw a woman riding her 2 year old in an agonizingly slow, shuffling lope. She actually was asked to leave a show ring one time because they thought her horse was lame.
         

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