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    05-03-2010, 09:56 PM
  #11
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Never, never do it! If you fall, hold the rein and horse freaks out next you'll have is horse actually stepping or striking at you, which may lead to really bad injuries. I had it happen with me once and I've seen it happening with other people. Just let it go - most horses will stop especially if you ride with someone and other horse stops.
I ride with long 7 foot western reins and always hang on to a rein when we go down and I have gone down many a time. I take my chances on being stepped on and will not loose my horse. It could easily mean his death.
     
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    05-03-2010, 09:56 PM
  #12
Weanling
I have two horses with polar opposite personalities...

With Romeo if I come off...and I rarely do...he will stop and look at me or if he goes to walk I say Whoa and he will stop then Stand and he will stand and wait for me...stand is his ground tie command.

Bause on the other hand...she will run like hell...gets me off then stops for about two second to think 'Ugh oh...I shook them off...Im in trouble...I should run...' (i did not fill her head with this...she is either 'off' or she got in trouble in the past...Idk which...) It doesnt help all I do is trail ride...in the pasture or in an arena I would let go of my rein and just go catch her but if im on the trails you bet ill hang onto that rein...If I let go I would never get her back. She would run even if every other horse in a five mile distance froze in place much less the ones im riding with.

I agree that it is not smart to hold on to a rein when you come off...but in some circumstances you just have to hang on and hope for the best...

As for how I would go about training one...teach whoa teach to ground tie with a verbal command like stand...that way the horse will stop and then the horse will stay put without you constantly repeating whoa.

But as said before...you can't teach every horse to stop...also I like rio's statement...7 ft long western split reins...that way even if your horse gets loose they can't hook a leg through their reins (ive had this happen it was bad) and if your lucky they will step on them and stop themselves (ive had this happen too)
     
    05-03-2010, 10:01 PM
  #13
Trained
I too hold on to my rein if it is long enough. I think all my reins are now and it was partly for this reason that I got rid of all my short reins. If I'm 10 miles from home, I don't want to walk home if my horse decides to leave without me.

I have been trying to train my horses to stop when I lose my balance. I haven't been diligent enough about it, but my method is to slide sideways, forwards or backwards and at the same time say Whoa and pull on the reins. Cause if I'm falling, I'm pullilng too!
     
    05-03-2010, 10:02 PM
  #14
Trained
I would think this would be easier to teach with split reins. Unlike english reins that stay on the horse's neck no matter where you are, I would think if the horse knows how to ground tie, having a split rein touch the ground would say "stop" to the horse.
     
    05-03-2010, 10:14 PM
  #15
Weanling
Reinforce a verbal "whoa" command. Although every horse but one that I've ridden all just stopped when I fell off.

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Originally Posted by Skipsfirstspike    
Ideally you should hold on to your rein, even if you fall off. Easier said than done, lol!
Noooo nooooooo nooo!!! Oh lord, no! That's the quickest way to get dragged, and you can be killed from being dragged by a horse.

Not the exact situation, but I remember a horse I knew a long time ago that was tied to a heavy post and she freaked out about something and ripped the post off, and took off dragged it. She went about a half a mile before she stopped. The post bashed her legs up really badly. You can bet if that was a person clinging on to that rope they would have very very badly hurt.

Better the horse run 10 miles and I never find him than end up being killed by him...
     
    05-03-2010, 10:18 PM
  #16
Trained
Interesting....I never really taught my horses to stop. They just....do :)
     
    05-03-2010, 10:21 PM
  #17
Yearling
Along with the above...

When you fall off your horse, it's a good idea not to punish them. Riders at my barn wonder why their horse takes off everytime they take a fall. The time for punishing is when you are on your horse, but by the time you end up on the ground, your horse probably doesn't know what they did wrong. Beating your horse everytime you fall is a good way to teach your horse to dump you and run, if I was the horse that's what I would do

And yes, it does depend a lot on the horse, too. I seem to have gotten lucky with my boy, and then again I don't beat him when I fall
     
    05-04-2010, 12:13 AM
  #18
Weanling
Has anyone heard of an imergancy dismount? It is great for this. It's fairly simple to teach your horse. Like MacabreMikolaj said, start bareback. Ask your horse to walk then you lean out over their shoulder, when you are unbalanced ask for the whoa. If they stop praise them. If they don't, swing yourself off landing by their shoulder facing them and stop them with your reins. It is easiest if you have split reins. Keep doing this until they stop when you lean out over their shoulder. When they do stop move to the trot and repeat the process until they stop at the trot. I wouldn't suggest trying it at a canter as you may get hurt if you land wrong.

Work on coming off and seeing if they stop when you unbalance yourself.
     
    05-04-2010, 12:54 AM
  #19
Banned
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You know, I have heard many things about voice commands and I have been working with horses for a long time. But most of the time I have always heard about voice commands. Now my recent mentor that I am training under says that he does not use voice commands for the reason of someone from the sidelines can yell something like "WHOA" or "YA" or something of that nature and the horse will respond to what the outsiders are saying instead of paying attention to you (the rider). He believes in more of the weight and the way that your body is positioned. But I do see the point about what if you fall off and are hanging by the tack; their is no way to position your body weight in the saddle to make him stop. Basically all you have left is to pray that he stops or use your voice, or if by chance you still have the reins in your hand, you can try pulling and see what happens. But a voice command does seem a bit more promising. Plus if you are on the ground and your horse is running off I don't think that your weight is going to be doing anything then so again there is praying or using a voice command. Plus to get across the argument about your horse listening to what outsiders are saying, I do believe that you can train your horse to only respond to the rider or at least your own voice cause horses do have great hearing and they can tell where a noise is coming from. So voice commands do have their place.
     
    05-04-2010, 01:45 AM
  #20
Trained
The times I fall off anymore are when the horse is blowing a cork and no amount of whoa is going to stop it. I don't want the horse to stay anywhere around me until it calms down. Sometimes I get up just in time to see the horse going over the hill and sometimes they turn right around and come back. Last fall I had a horse buck me off at a roping and I tried to keep hold of the rein. To make a long story short I dislocated a finger and went to the hospital and eventually had $5000 worth of surgery on it to reattach the tendon. My view may change later but for now I think I would rather walk home than risk getting stepped on or hurt again and I don't fall off often enough to make it an important part of my training.
     

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