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post #1 of 12 Old 02-02-2008, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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Whats so bad?

I found this post on Fugly Horse Of The Day. And I don't understand what is so terrible about these horses and riders. I think they are fine.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007
Fugly horses jumping badly!

What happens when you combine horses who are not particularly athletic (and certainly aren't attractive) with the intermediate-rider daughter of a horse dealer? Well here you go. *shakes head*

A week ago or so, I discussed the "old style" Appaloosa and described the square head with small pink eye. Here ya go! For only $3500 you can put him in your barn. BTW, when your NOSE is lower than you KNEES over a 2 foot jump, that is not a good thing. He is probably losing his sight like so many Appaloosas and is trying to figure out where the hell the ground is so that he can land.

This adds new meaning to "hanging knees." What is with that leg position? I know the rider often doesn't release properly and every single horse jumps with that nose-in "holy **** I'm going to get popped in the gums again" look, but this is ridiculous. This kind of looks like that snowcap Appy from yesterday, except that one had a prettier head. Gah.

In all fairness, I don't think any of these horses have been schooled o/f. This is more like "let's see if he'll jump! Go jump them thar barrels! If he'll jump, we can sell him for $3500 too!" Most of the horses on this guy's page have that fresh-from-the-auction look. In fact, we found one that still had the butt tag on it but I forgot where the picture was.

(Ok now I know this one is bad but not the rest of them.)

If your leg is this weak, you should not be jumping at all. And much like the bad parenting pictures, why do we post these pictures on the internet? If I had a boo-boo jump and looked like that, it would be deleted the second it hit the preview mode of the camera.

This is a sweet horse who clearly is not the least bit naturally talented o/f and does not (from his many other pictures) have the best looking set of legs and probably shouldn't be jumping in the first place. I hope he gets sold while he is still sound. Another $3500 special (that I can pick up at any auction for $400).

I know this is somewhat of a mixed post as it's half about the fugly and half about the scary riding, but I had to share after being tipped off to the existence of this site last night.

When the horse has his eyes shut because he can't bear to watch, you know you are in trouble. That is all I am going to say.

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post #2 of 12 Old 02-02-2008, 04:30 PM
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I think it is just her opinion that those horses may not be meant to be jumpers because of their form over the jumps and their conformation. It is her blog, so she puts up whatever she wants.

With that blog you have to be careful just to read it, get what you can from it, and take or leave the rest. They may simply be bad photos/bad timing...she may be right...hard to say...

You know what I mean? :)
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post #3 of 12 Old 02-02-2008, 04:40 PM
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As AKPaintLover said, this person takes pleasure from finding bad pictures.
However, I'll let you know the basics of what's wrong with these pictures:

Horse #1:
Not a "pretty" horse, but might be a good lesson horse.. on the flat. His knees are hanging, and the rider isn't in good position - might be just learning.

Horse #2:
Horse not tucking, and the rider... goodness!! Her butt is so far up in the air! She needs to come closer to her tack and not overjump a 2' fence.

Horse #3:
Horse rushed to the jump and took off too early, and the rider got left COMPLETELY behind. Maybe this is due to a "chair seat" that the rider takes.

Horse #4:
The rider is jumping ahead of the horse, and is too far out of the tack to be effective. I bet her hands are supporting her on the horse's neck.

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yeah but i mean geez there not that bad. Fugly Horse blogger is really strict :roll:
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Yes, that's true. If the pictures are of students in a lesson, sure. But if those were photos for sale ads, then I'd have to laugh. Some of them are pretty bad.

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post #6 of 12 Old 02-02-2008, 05:28 PM
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Those are some pretty bad photos. Not that any of those horses wouldn't improve with practice...but none of them is going to be a good purchase if you are looking for a nice automatic jumper who's going to teach your 12 year old novice how to jump. Nor should they be priced as such. That's what I took from that post, at any rate.
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The lady who sells those horses has like a ton and all of them are pretty cheap. The way they look over fences if kinda scary(I have also seen videos) and probably not safe for a younger rider.

Look at the way the horse jumps at 1:17

Also try and tell me this isn't stupid the kids don't even have helmuts on.

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I found out about this blog that some stuff are certainly true and I absolutely agree with, and some statements are wrong (may be person just hasn't been in certain situations, but life is simply not black and white). Don't want to go to details, but as any personal blog it's "one person opinion", you know. ;)
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post #9 of 12 Old 02-04-2008, 07:05 AM
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I read her blog once and that was enough for me. Very negative in every way. I really took offence at the way she judges horses right or wrong. With all the unwanted horses, do we really need someone scouring the net looking for ugly ones no one would want? I would be really hurt if I saw a photo of my horse on her site. Ugly or drop dead gorgous I love my horses.

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I don't think the problem is that such horses exist or even that people are riding and jumping them. The problem is that these horses are being advertised as performance horses. Their conformation isn't good, their jumping form is poor to the point of being dangerous, and their training is pretty lackluster. If you watch the videos that Nevie posted, you will see that none of the horses have been taught to move properly and none of the riders use their reins properly. They are long and loopy, allowing no steady communication with the horse's mouth, and the riders are jerky and catching the horses in the mouth with the reins.

While they may flourish as school horses, none of them are going to shine as performance horses in a show ring. As for these specific pictures, none of these horses look comfortable jumping or like they've been taught to do it properly and safely. They're over jumping small fences, which shows their discomfort and fear. The riders are either jumping ahead or getting left behind, making it even harder for the horses. The footing is poor and the jumps are not set up safely for beginning jumpers. To top it off, you can see that the jump standard is in the process of falling over in the third picture.

There are just way too many problems, and many of them safety issues, for a farm to be advertising these as performance sport horses. I'm not a fan of that blog because I don't like the constant negativity and meanness, but in this case I do not advocate the dangerous behavior and the misuse of these scared, poorly-trained horses either.

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