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post #1 of 9 Old 08-10-2012, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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When to introduce chain lead to a colt

My gypsy cob colt will be coming home in a month or month and half tops. He will be about 4 and half months. As of right now we are keeping him a stallion to evaluate for breeding once he matures. Any ways, the last time I went to visit him he was a bit unruly, partially just young/untrained and partially because he is a toot lol. I have a regular lead rope and stud chain lead. Just wondering when would be a good time to switch him to stud chain? He is a giant of a colt so far, and I know eventually we will have to make the switch for shows... Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 9 Old 08-10-2012, 03:57 PM
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When you feel like he needs it. Hopefully with regular handling he won't need it so soon.

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As a weanling, he should be fine to use a chain and start learning the basics of showing in hand.

With a young horse, I like to run the chain through the ring at the bottom of the halter at first so that there isn't quite so much for them to hit. Young horses are apt to do stupid things, and why not reduce the opportunity for them to do it?

The chain shouldn't be a punishment thing. Especially with a young horse, avoid shanking them because you don't want him getting scared of it. Consistency is really the key.
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Thank you both!
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We've never had to use one. They should be taught all their manners like any other youngling. Chains were introduced when we started getting close to their first show. They were curious about the them but since their manners were firmly entrenched without ever using them we never had to feel they were necessary except for shows as they were required. If they were going to be used for breeding purposes they were used then as well but still they knew what was expected and nothing more than a reminder was ever needed. I have seen and been in barns with stallions (of any age) that I would have not hesitated to use one as they were mannerless without them.
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If you want him to have good manners, he needs to be 'socialized' with other horses. If you do not do this, he will be much more difficult to handle and will start thinking and behaving like a breeding stallion at a much younger age.

We turn out all young stallions with older geldings. They put them in their place -- the very bottom of the 'pecking order'. At that position in a herd, they have very low Testosterone levels and usually act like a young gelding acts.

We have always run young stallions with geldings until they are ready to start breeding. If we have them stalled to be fitted, they get turn-out time with geldings. We just never raise them without 'socializing' them with mature geldings.

Most young stallions handled this way are nicer to handle, easier to manner, easier to ride and train and nicer as mature breeding horses than those that are not raised this way. It is sure the easy way to do it.
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Oh yes! He is definitely going to be socialized, when he gets here he will be stalled between two older, well trained, geldings. He will have a very large stall, it's 10x25 feet, half is walled for privacy and the rest has high metal bars. As for turnout I'll be using the arena for him which is also high metal railing. He is definitely going to learn manners, and if he for some reason doesn't then I would have no problems gelding him. He is first and foremost intended to be a riding horse, but if he keeps good health, has good confirmation once mature, and is well mannered then keeping him a stud is just extra icing on the cake. He has wonderful bloodlines though and his sire is extremely sweet.

Thank you I just can't wait for him to get here!
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he will be stalled between two older, well trained, geldings.
This is completely ineffective. For 'socialization' to work, they have to be turned out and live together. The older geldings need to be able to chase him and kick him in the ribs. The youngster learns very quickly where he stands and it is pretty far down the social ladder. The young stud learns to 'read' the demeanor of his pasture mates and it makes your job of teaching him to back away from people when they tell him to with people body language.
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Sorry, didn't mention after a few days of him being in the arena by himself the geldings will be with him. And during those few days of him being alone in the arena, the other horses will be able meet him through the bars as the arena is centered amongst the ten acre pasture all of the other horses share. Then once he gets a bit older and his handling is good he can be turned out with the other geldings. But the two previously mentioned geldings belong to my friend who is a horse trainer and agreed to this. These two boys are the best at the barn, older been there done that, don't tolerate nonsense type.
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