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    09-09-2009, 05:14 PM
  #21
Trained
If you're lunging your horse so much you have to worry about his spine because of a pound of line between you and him you are probably overdoing it and should get on and ride or try something else.
     
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    09-10-2009, 01:17 AM
  #22
Foal
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
If you're lunging your horse so much you have to worry about his spine because of a pound of line between you and him you are probably overdoing it and should get on and ride or try something else.
Kevin, I tried to search the Monty Roberts site for this great article, but their site is under construction or something. He does have a great movie clip that illustrates his point. All I found was this: Monty Roberts | Join Up Ask Monty Please check it out and let us know what you think.

But, here is my attempt at his explanation: With a single lunge line, pressure is applied to the atlanto-axial joint (their poll) which starts the imbalance. Without outside contact (through side-reins or the outside long-line), the bend of the horse actually becomes almost counter to the circle you are lunging. This throws off the whole orthopedic movement of the horse. Really just the pound of line is enough to cause this imbalance. Even if single-line lunging is done minimally, it is still not favorable.

I agree, many problems can be resolved through just getting on. However, lunging young, untrained horses is a great training tool leading up to riding. Also, certain horses may benefit from lunging when they are coming back from injury, or just out of condition. Lunging horses properly can really help them balance their bodies before they have to juggle a rider. And, frankly, some in experienced riders may not ride well enough to get horses through those training periods. Lunging is a great skill.
     
    09-10-2009, 01:32 AM
  #23
Trained
I can see the reasoning behind it and I don't lunge horses as a rule. It gave me something to think about if I need to lunge in the future. Thank you
     
    09-10-2009, 02:08 PM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by aynelson    
Kevin, I tried to search the Monty Roberts site for this great article, but their site is under construction or something. He does have a great movie clip that illustrates his point. All I found was this: Monty Roberts | Join Up Ask Monty Please check it out and let us know what you think.

But, here is my attempt at his explanation: With a single lunge line, pressure is applied to the atlanto-axial joint (their poll) which starts the imbalance. Without outside contact (through side-reins or the outside long-line), the bend of the horse actually becomes almost counter to the circle you are lunging. This throws off the whole orthopedic movement of the horse. Really just the pound of line is enough to cause this imbalance. Even if single-line lunging is done minimally, it is still not favorable.

I agree, many problems can be resolved through just getting on. However, lunging young, untrained horses is a great training tool leading up to riding. Also, certain horses may benefit from lunging when they are coming back from injury, or just out of condition. Lunging horses properly can really help them balance their bodies before they have to juggle a rider. And, frankly, some in experienced riders may not ride well enough to get horses through those training periods. Lunging is a great skill.

Thanks for explaining that for me. I was going to type out what is in his book "From my hands to yours" but it would have taken me all day lol
     
    09-10-2009, 02:21 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Here is an explanation right from the horses mouth LOL

Question to Monty : Why do you dislike single-line lunging?

Answer by Monty: I consider single line lunging the second worst piece of horsemanship there is. Just think about it and it’s obvious.
A secretary working with a telephone propped to her ear, balanced off her shoulder for any amount of time generally gets a crick in her neck and a backache. Hang the weight of even a light long line on one side of y our horse’s head for any amount of time and it will affect how the horse carries its head, which in turn will affect hot its body travels as well – out of balance.
Double line lunging (also called ground driving) incorporates a long line of each side of the horse’s body allowing it to move in a natural and balanced manner. This is what we desire. The horse will be more comfortable and able to concentrate on his lesson and the messages your are transmitting through long lines.
Don’t forget that you can continue to incorporate your body language in the driving or blocking positions as additional communication aids. On double long lines you can teach and the horse can learn contact. On a single long line, you can non-abusively only teach voice commands while your horse is circling – constantly out of balance.
     

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