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    09-10-2012, 11:37 AM
Why hasn't he learned yet?!

I love my pony - I think he's just about as smart as they come. He picks up new tricks in minutes. He could let himself out of his stall until I got him a taller door, he could do anything he set his little pony mind too (the little dirt bag).
But he has a new habit - and I'm not sure why he hasn't figured out how stupid it is? He paws at his stall guard and then gets his foot stuck in it. He has never been able to free himself. At first I would rush over and help him. But then I just started letting him stand there like that for a while. He never panicked or thrashed around with it - just stood there with his hoof in the air. I'd only save him after I was done with whatever I was doing. :P
This morning I woke to loud thumping downstairs. Then a huge crash and boom. I ran down and found my mare soaked, she rolled under her water buckets and dumped them all on her. I thought it was fine, I fed them and went back up. But kept hearing 'thump thump thump' every few minutes. Went back down - pony's got his hoof in his freaking stall guard, he's all bent out of shape reaching his food with his foot in the air. -.- Why hasn't he figured out NOT to paw his stall guard?

Here he is looking all sorts of guilty:
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    09-10-2012, 01:41 PM
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I hate stall guards for this reason. Put a door on the stall and get rid of the guard. Someday your wicked smart little pony (who looks like he needs his feet done BTW) is going to get hung up and break a leg..or worse...

Now you need to be smarter and make his stall safe.
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    09-10-2012, 01:42 PM
Maybe he was trying to get you to look at his feet.
    09-10-2012, 01:47 PM
Yikes. Just because he hasn't freaked out yet doesn't mean he won't; and because you ignore him now you may end up getting there too late when he does decide to freak out - or if something spooks him that causes him to fight the guard.
There are rubber single strand stall chains and webbed stall guards that have cloth covering the openings. Please invest in one of those, or just shut the stall door. Burn that dangerous, flimsy red thing before someone gets hurt.
Is it just me or are his feet two really different lengths..??
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    09-10-2012, 01:57 PM
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I too hate that sort of stall guard. All I use is a strong chain on clips so that it is abut chest high.

Agree about his feet.
    09-10-2012, 02:24 PM
Yes his feet do need to be done, he was due this week but his farrier is away and will be here friday. His feet aren't as bad as the pic shows, his hoof aas at a funny angle.

He never, ever has only the stall guard when not supervised. If he's hung up in it and i'm ignoring him, i'm still right next to him. I would never walk away with him like that. I originally used the chain type 2 of them and he found his way through it.

He has a solid door but he can't see over it- when he had a door he could see over he would let himself out or kick it non-stop.
So I like to let him have his stall guard when he can't go outside and i'm around so he can see and be part of the group.

I appreciate everyone's concerns but i'd never let him hurt himself - i've begun taking the guard completely out of his stall when the door is shut. This morning ws the first time he got his foot through it with the door shut- didn't think he could manage that :P I had a stall guard that was like his current one but had fabric netting blockig the holes, he promptly destroyed that too.
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    09-10-2012, 02:38 PM
Stall guards should never be left up with the door closed - for this exact reason; if the horse paws at the door, the foot can certainly slip through.
I'd strongly suggest finding another guard without giant holes in it. It only takes once for your pony to decide it ISN'T cool for you to ignore him while he's caught and freak out. He may thrash making it nearly impossible to free him effectively. That nylon will cut like a sunofagun.
It's a bad stall guard regardless of the horse; it's **** near irresponsible to continue using this with a horse that has gotten caught more than once... To the point you ignore him when he gets caught...
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    09-10-2012, 03:00 PM
What type do you suggest? I havent found any stall guards without holes. The onlytype without holes is the same stall guard with nylon webbing filling the holes - he destroyed that. I tried using two of the type with rubber around a chain and he weaselss his way under and through it.
The only reason I "ignored" hin is because a trainer italked to told me that's how to teach them not to do that again. Clearly that didn't work. When I did "ignore" him I was right next to him. He has a solid "stand" command he's very good about, even when the neighbors dog is growling at as when we go for our walks. And before I et jumped onfor that there is a fence between us and the dog.
I'd be happy to use another stall guard I just havent found one that actually keeps him in his stall. And i've learned this lesson and guards are taken down when doors are shut. But I would hate to have him locked away all day just because he puts his foot in the stall guard. If anyone knows a good one please let me know. My mare uses two rubber chains and is fine with it.
Also when I get home tonigh i'll get a picture of his feet so you can see he's not neglected, it was just the angle and blur.
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    09-10-2012, 03:05 PM
Does he not get turned out..?
Till you find an appropriate stall guard, close the door. Can he be kept outside?
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    09-10-2012, 03:09 PM
He is turned out most days but the past few days the bugs have been so horrible, even soaked in bug spray - he just paces thefence until I bring him in. I take him out for walks and am working on teaching hi. Agility so he's pretty well exercised. I have honestly been looking but haven't been able to find a stall guard he can't ruin or get hurt on. And he can't see over his door, so I feel bad leaving him like that. Like I said before if the door is any shorter he can get out. He's jumped over a door that was just over his chest height before. He could probably jump oerthat guard, but like I said i'm always right there when it's up.
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