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        02-23-2014, 01:57 PM
      #11
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    Back to the mouth. Another thing is that you might have the bit too high in her mouth. They used to teach "two wrinkles " in the corner of the mouth. But what I have been taught and seen is that one small wrinkle , or none at all , is the best. High enough that when hanging down it does not bang the front teeth, but low enough that when the rein is engaged, the bit does not go back and hit the molars, either. Horses learn to like the bit in a position that works for them, but having it so high in his/her mouth that the horse cannot pick it up and hold it with her tongue will feel gagging. Also, a thick bit, once said to be the 'gentlest' bit is often really hard for the horse to have in the mouth since it takes up more room than is available .

    So, aside from rider positional things the bit is to be considered, too.
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        02-23-2014, 02:44 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I didn't read all the posts so if someone has mentioned this I apologize. There should be a straight line from your elbow to the bit. Your hands are too low and it looks like you might be using the reins to support yourself, or at the least, to pull the horses's head down. Your hands need to be independent of your seat and body. Also, you should hold your hand as if you were holding a baby bird--gently so you don't squish it--not tight and hard.
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        02-23-2014, 07:32 PM
      #13
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    I agree that this is more rider than horse.

    First thing I noticed was your hands and how hard you are holding the reins and how you are fixing your hands down.

    When you hold the reins pinch the rein between your forefinger and your thumb, the other fingers should be very relaxed and just used by moving the a fraction for guidance.
    Wrists should be soft and supple and the whole arm like a piece of elastic to give and take as the horse moves its head.
    Tiny has made good pointers about the rest of your position. You need to forget about her head placement, do lots of work at a sitting trot without stirrups to get your seat bones under you and to make you independent in your seat.
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        02-24-2014, 10:50 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Thanks for all the tips. I'm also reading the references that were posted. I appreciate the input and will take these tips and monitor my/our progress :)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by caseymyhorserocks    

    Please, work with a good dressage trainer. You have much to improve with your position, and you are doing your horse more bad than good riding with contact.
    I do wish it was so simple, but as I am in the middle of a divorce and my business is in the pooper, I'm not so fortunate to be able to work with a trainer right now (and the last one I worked with was a mess, so that doesn't help where I am currently as a rider). I'm happy to be able to continue (for now) affording to keep my horse. I hope to start working with a trainer again soon, and I'm sure that will aid fixing our problems much quicker. For now, I just ask questions and do my best on my own.
         
        02-24-2014, 11:41 PM
      #15
    Started
    I can't help much more with the actual topic as I think what's been seen and pointed out is spot on already, however I do understand the unable to have lessons part, I have that struggle too, for cost reasons mainly (student, horse bills etc come before lessons) but what I would suggest, is that when you can, perhaps set a video camera on a post if nobody is able to video for you, and video your ride or at least parts of it.. That way you can see what changes or doesn't change throughout your rides, and you can go well ok, I need to work on this, or, this is fine I don't need to change that.. A lot of the time during a ride I may get frustrated with the horse for "not cooperating" and I will go back over the video later that night and go oh.... That wasn't the horses fault... I gotta work on that one.
         
        02-24-2014, 11:54 PM
      #16
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LoveMyTBPacha    
    Thanks for all the tips. I'm also reading the references that were posted. I appreciate the input and will take these tips and monitor my/our progress :)



    I do wish it was so simple, but as I am in the middle of a divorce and my business is in the pooper, I'm not so fortunate to be able to work with a trainer right now (and the last one I worked with was a mess, so that doesn't help where I am currently as a rider). I'm happy to be able to continue (for now) affording to keep my horse. I hope to start working with a trainer again soon, and I'm sure that will aid fixing our problems much quicker. For now, I just ask questions and do my best on my own.
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    You had not asked for a full critique, and you took the comments like a real Lady. I hope that things work out for you, financially and all. Don't worry too much now about lessons and all, as there are other more important things on your plate. For a bit, just ride for enjoyement and spend some time "listening " to your horse, in all ways that you can. Let her help you through the rough time, and she'll tell you a lot about how to make things better in the future. I know that sounds very "woo-woo", but sometimes, when things get the most stuck, just sitting back and "listening" is the best thing to do.

    All the best,
    C
         
        02-25-2014, 12:46 AM
      #17
    Foal
    I don't mind a critique at all, I need it. I know my place, and I've got a long way to go. I do appreciate everyone's advice (I will do the video tape thing...I was alarmed by the photo, so I can't imagine how much more I'd find out from video). Thanks guys :)
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        02-25-2014, 12:47 AM
      #18
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
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    You had not asked for a full critique, and you took the comments like a real Lady. I hope that things work out for you, financially and all. Don't worry too much now about lessons and all, as there are other more important things on your plate. For a bit, just ride for enjoyement and spend some time "listening " to your horse, in all ways that you can. Let her help you through the rough time, and she'll tell you a lot about how to make things better in the future. I know that sounds very "woo-woo", but sometimes, when things get the most stuck, just sitting back and "listening" is the best thing to do.

    All the best,
    C
    And thank you for the very nice post
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        02-26-2014, 12:32 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Love all the comments so far. Here is something for you to look at that may help you.
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        02-26-2014, 01:33 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elana    
    Love all the comments so far. Here is something for you to look at that may help you.
    Thanks Elana!
         

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