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    06-08-2011, 10:45 AM
  #11
Weanling
To work on getting her to move forward:

1.) First I'm assuming she plants her feet when she's being lead with or WITHOUT a rider, so start trsaining withOUT a rider. Standing on left side of pony's shoulder holding lead in right hand (and a LONG whip in left hand), wlak forward. If when you step forward she hesitates or does not step forward, tap pony with whip on butt (middle by the tail). If she even takes 1 step forward nicely tell her good girl. If she leaps forward just hold onto her and let lead line restrict her forward progress, and keep walking.

The idea here is to condition her to walk forward immediately upon request by the handler (pony should mimic handler feet, as you step forward she should step forward).

If instead of forward movement pony kicks out at whip, say a LOUD "NO" and immediately smack pony harder with whip. Let it sink in a minute then repeat asking nicely for pony to walk forward.

2.) When pony walks forward promptly as handler asks then you can repeat this with a rider. Rider should have something to hold onto in case pony bolts forward.

And FYI - there is a condition called kissing spines which, when you add the weight of a rider onto a horses back, can cause the horse pain - thus that could be a source of pony's "occassional" bad manners, so it MAY be pain related, but I would start with the above "instruction" to install better manners on the pony. Never forget that YOU are herd leader and pony is expected to listen to what you are telling her, then make certain pony "understands" what you're asking her to do (before any punishment/negative reinforcement).
     
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    06-08-2011, 11:36 AM
  #12
Banned
^^^^ EXACTLY the kind of ground work I meant.
     
    06-08-2011, 08:18 PM
  #13
Foal
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Originally Posted by Valentina    
To work on getting her to move forward:

1.) First I'm assuming she plants her feet when she's being lead with or WITHOUT a rider, so start trsaining withOUT a rider. Standing on left side of pony's shoulder holding lead in right hand (and a LONG whip in left hand), wlak forward. If when you step forward she hesitates or does not step forward, tap pony with whip on butt (middle by the tail). If she even takes 1 step forward nicely tell her good girl. If she leaps forward just hold onto her and let lead line restrict her forward progress, and keep walking.

The idea here is to condition her to walk forward immediately upon request by the handler (pony should mimic handler feet, as you step forward she should step forward).

If instead of forward movement pony kicks out at whip, say a LOUD "NO" and immediately smack pony harder with whip. Let it sink in a minute then repeat asking nicely for pony to walk forward.

2.) When pony walks forward promptly as handler asks then you can repeat this with a rider. Rider should have something to hold onto in case pony bolts forward.

And FYI - there is a condition called kissing spines which, when you add the weight of a rider onto a horses back, can cause the horse pain - thus that could be a source of pony's "occassional" bad manners, so it MAY be pain related, but I would start with the above "instruction" to install better manners on the pony. Never forget that YOU are herd leader and pony is expected to listen to what you are telling her, then make certain pony "understands" what you're asking her to do (before any punishment/negative reinforcement).

Thanks so much for the advice, I will start working with her on the weekend... I've also bought a pony saddle so will try her with that and no rider... my son that has been riding her (or trying to lol) is about 40kg I think, well he is very light anyway and he thinks the fun part of riding is being thrown off, this kids a daredevil so no problems with her knocking his confidence lol when I asked previous owner if she was ridable she hesitated and said umm well my kids have riden her so this is why I think maybe she hasn't or certainly hasn't been taught anything. So I will work with her and see how we go, thanks everyone for your input it is much appreciated
     
    06-08-2011, 08:45 PM
  #14
Banned
40 kg is 88 pounds, that may very well be too heavy for a 10 hand pony. I have a light bodied 10 and a half hand pony and I won't let anyone on him over 75 pounds. I put a very good rider on him at about 90 pounds and the pony was very resentful, much worse for her than a smaller, less experienced rider. Particularly if your son is inexperienced and a bit of a daredevil, sits way back on him, throws his weight around, etc. the pony may be reacting out of discomfort.

Besides doing the ground work, I think you need to consider that your son may be too big for the pony.
     
    06-09-2011, 01:19 PM
  #15
Foal
It sounds like its either poor breaking or a physical problem. I would strongly recommend getting her checked out by a vet to rule out any issues, otherwise further training could do her serious damage.

If the vet rules injury out, I think clicker training would do her good, or if that's not your thing, normal training without the clicker but with some kind of food reward. Ponies tend to be very food-minded and will often respond well to food incentives. Be careful though, else she might get greedy and expect food every time a person is around.

Either way, I think the best move is to get her trained into good groundwork manners before trying to train her to accept a rider. This helps to build her respect and attentiveness to whomever is handling her. Cover all the basics- walking and stopping properly, turning with you, ect. This is vital, as it sounds like stubbornness is accentuating the problem so she must learn to respect that the humans are in charge and that work is good and fun.

Then gradually build it up into walking with a bridle on, then maybe a saddlepad, then a saddlepad with a strap acting like a girth around her but no saddle, and then the saddle. If she accepts these well enough, short, regular rides with a rider on board with a leadrope attached to her headcollar. Make sure that you stop before she can act up, and gradually increase the time a rider is on.

It will probably be a long process, but it will develop your bond with her and she should, hopefully, come round and be a good riding pony.

Best of luck with her!

S&F
     

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