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        04-17-2013, 03:35 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Practice does good but you can overdo it too. That just might be what's going on. I mean a dozen times so far this year?
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        04-17-2013, 03:50 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Agree again with usandpets to a point. It's like running a barrel horse too hard and fast then they become gate sour. Working a horse is one thing, but doing it in excess can cause them to become sour really quick. If I may ask who's the trainer you're using? I have a few I can send you information about depending exactly where you're at in MI.

    Exactly how are you asking her to load, what's the process you follow everytime?

    For me it's about consistency, I can throw the lead over his neck/back now and point or say "load up" and he goes right in. This was after a lot of short sessions so he wasn't overworked. When he did what I asked he was praised, if not obviously worked and corrected until he loaded then we were done. To start a horse with trailering we'd load them up and take them to the back lush field and let them graze a bit, then we'd trailer and ride, then switch back. Sometimes this isn't the best choice, but does help if they don't load because they think you're just going to work them. It depends on the horse. They do pick up on things though, and feed off of your energy if you're getting frustrated.
         
        04-17-2013, 03:53 PM
      #13
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by usandpets    
    Practice does good but you can overdo it too. That just might be what's going on. I mean a dozen times so far this year?
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    Yeah. We were working with her once a week, and once on the weekend every week. I guess I didn't think about over doing it. She was making great progress and we just wanted to keep her ( in lack of better words) ' up to date' with loading. Each time we worked with her it was only a few minutes at a time. Load up, reward her, take them for a short drive, and return home.
         
        04-17-2013, 03:57 PM
      #14
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Annanoel    
    Agree again with usandpets to a point. It's like running a barrel horse too hard and fast then they become gate sour. Working a horse is one thing, but doing it in excess can cause them to become sour really quick. If I may ask who's the trainer you're using? I have a few I can send you information about depending exactly where you're at in MI.

    Exactly how are you asking her to load, what's the process you follow everytime?

    For me it's about consistency, I can throw the lead over his neck/back now and point or say "load up" and he goes right in. This was after a lot of short sessions so he wasn't overworked. When he did what I asked he was praised, if not obviously worked and corrected until he loaded then we were done. To start a horse with trailering we'd load them up and take them to the back lush field and let them graze a bit, then we'd trailer and ride, then switch back. It depends on the horse. They do pick up on things though, and feed off of your energy if you're getting frustrated.

    I lead her in and say " step up". There's a little escape door on her side so once she is in, I step out and my mom closes the door behind my horse while I get her tied.- We are close to the Lansing area. The trainer my mom called is Ann Marie? I've been to one of her seminars before and seen her load a horse, so I'm hoping she can help us out :)
         
        04-17-2013, 08:41 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Hopefully you will be able to watch the trainer work on getting your horse to load. That way you'll be able to see how she loads her.

    I know that people use and call the door in the front of a trailer as an "escape" door but it really is meant as an access door. You really shouldn't be leading the horse into the trailer. That is a simple recipe for an accident waiting to happen.

    Like Annanoel does, you should be outside the trailer and sending the horse in. I thought you said she was pretty good about loading. If you need to lead her in to load, she's not that good.

    Here's how a horse should load:
    Loading a horse - YouTube
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        04-18-2013, 12:44 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Palomine, I wasn't trying to say to not load and go but to give them a chance to settle once you get there. You are right that they should load, work when you get to the destination and reload without issues. When done frequently as you seem to do, they do get accustomed to it. We don't trailer very often. When we do, we like to let them be while we get things organized, usually not done in a hurry. It's the same after the ride, we let them rest while we put things away. We also usually give them some feed or let them graze at that time. Kind of a reward for hauling our butts around.

    Are our horses spoiled? Sure, why not? At the same time, we (the horses and I) know exactly where I'm at in pecking order, at the top. When I ride, it's for relaxation. I want to enjoy it and I think what we do lets them enjoy it too. Could I do it as you say, unload, ride and reload? Sure, we've done it. Thing with that is the horses are a little more antsy and feisty during the ride. They're not as relaxed which doesn't let me have a relaxed ride. That's why I suggested giving time to settle when getting there and before heading home.
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        04-18-2013, 09:14 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    I don't think the fact that she has to lead her horse in means she is a bad loader. I always lead my horses into the trailer, how else are you going to get them tied and the dividers closed once they are in there? This really does not make sense to me.
         
        04-18-2013, 09:32 AM
      #18
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by LynnF    
    I don't think the fact that she has to lead her horse in means she is a bad loader. I always lead my horses into the trailer, how else are you going to get them tied and the dividers closed once they are in there? This really does not make sense to me.
    Depends on the trailer, our old slant load they would walk into the "slant" towards the front you step in the trailer and close the divider. There's enough room that you're not standing behind them in any sort of danger. Then we had fold down windows to tie if we wanted to by their head. I, personally don't tie but that's me.

    If you lead a horse into the trailer it can be VERY dangerous especially if you have no way to get out. The only out would be to get the horse out or inch your way around the horse. I wouldn't do that, especially if I had a nervous horse -- that's asking to be kicked or hurt. It's so easy for even a seasoned horse to freak in a split second and by sending them in you eliminate you being in the trailer and getting smashed, kicked, pinned etc.

    If it works for you great! I just won't do it, to many horror stories so I choose to stay outside the trailer while my horse gets in. Then I shut the divider / doors / slant and tie if I need to. Always seems the horse is much more relaxed getting in alone at least mine are.
         
        04-18-2013, 10:37 AM
      #19
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by LynnF    
    I don't think the fact that she has to lead her horse in means she is a bad loader. I always lead my horses into the trailer, how else are you going to get them tied and the dividers closed once they are in there? This really does not make sense to me.
    That's what the access door is for. With a slant load you can walk in after and tie. I wasn't saying she's a bad loader to have to be lead in but not a good loader. I would consider her an ok loader.
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        04-18-2013, 06:49 PM
      #20
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by usandpets    
    Hopefully you will be able to watch the trainer work on getting your horse to load. That way you'll be able to see how she loads her.

    I know that people use and call the door in the front of a trailer as an "escape" door but it really is meant as an access door. You really shouldn't be leading the horse into the trailer. That is a simple recipe for an accident waiting to happen.

    Like Annanoel does, you should be outside the trailer and sending the horse in. I thought you said she was pretty good about loading. If you need to lead her in to load, she's not that good.

    Here's how a horse should load:
    Loading a horse - YouTube
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    The video didn't play, but I did watch a few videos on youtube ( Clinton Anderson, Pat Parelli, etc) Our farrier mentioned that our trailer may be to small for her as well which was something we hadn't though of.- She's stockier than my mom's old horse that used to load on the same side. The type of trailer we have is a 2 horse straight load that we've had for about 6 years.
         

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