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        05-03-2011, 11:17 PM
      #21
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xXWildFlowerXx    
    She tends to pull at the lead so hard and try to get away I can't hold her half the time.
    if you can't hold her then you really should not be trying to riding her. You need to do some serious ground work and training if you can't even hold her on a lead. What makes you think she's going to be read to have a saddle and a person put on her back? What is the hurry that you can't stop and do a few weeks of ground training? If you don't have a safe horse on the ground your sure not going to have a safe horse while your on her back
         
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        05-03-2011, 11:22 PM
      #22
    Trained
    *waits for a funeral notice*
         
        05-03-2011, 11:23 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nokeen    
    if you can't hold her then you really should not be trying to riding her. You need to do some serious ground work and training if you can't even hold her on a lead. What makes you think she's going to be read to have a saddle and a person put on her back? What is the hurry that you can't stop and do a few weeks of ground training? If you don't have a safe horse on the ground your sure not going to have a safe horse while your on her back
    I can lead her and hold her, I just can't be dragged around by a horse that ways a whole more than me. It seems I get criticized by everything I say I can do and can't do on here. She's never pulled me before, and all I need is a little more time to actually try to give her the right bath.
    I can't set here and therefore be told I'm doing everything wrong, when I've read tons of books from people who have trained lots of horses. I've trained her with everything she needs to know on the ground, and I can ride her, as well, I just haven't gotten a saddle and saddle-trained her yet. All I need to work on is bathing her, and I will be going smooth from there.

    Not to be rude, but I'm not a horse, I'm a kid, and I need someone to explain to me nicely what to do, and not criticize and tell me I'm doing it terribly and am a bad trainer, which just influence's me to give up, and hurts my feelings.

    I had to get that out. Sorry.
         
        05-03-2011, 11:27 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Okay, I will explain to you nicely what to do...

    Get a qualified trainer.
         
        05-03-2011, 11:31 PM
      #25
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xXWildFlowerXx    
    I can lead her and hold her, I just can't be dragged around by a horse that ways a whole more than me. It seems I get criticized by everything I say I can do and can't do on here. She's never pulled me before, and all I need is a little more time to actually try to give her the right bath.
    I can't set here and therefore be told I'm doing everything wrong, when I've read tons of books from people who have trained lots of horses. I've trained her with everything she needs to know on the ground, and I can ride her, as well, I just haven't gotten a saddle and saddle-trained her yet. All I need to work on is bathing her, and I will be going smooth from there.

    Not to be rude, but I'm not a horse, I'm a kid, and I need someone to explain to me nicely what to do, and not criticize and tell me I'm doing it terribly and am a bad trainer, which just influence's me to give up, and hurts my feelings.

    I had to get that out. Sorry.
    horses aren't about feeling nice and being friends, they are large animals that can very easily kill you. I said you need to hold her while you bath her to give her security, that is my advice, your response is I can't hold her she pulls away. What in that sentence would make me think you are capable of leading her? If you can not hold her you need to have someone help you, something I also said, so that it is a safe environment for not only the thousand pound animal but for you.

    Edit: and the reason you are getting told that you need someone else to do this is because not only are you making a dangerous situation for not only your self and the horse but you are also putting anyone down the line who might handle this horse in danger as well. Its not a personal attack on you its a statement that for the safety of every one involved that you need to get help if you didnt you wouldnt be here asking for help. And that's what everyone is telling you, you need to find someone, a trainer or an adult that knows how to properly handle animals, to come and help you with this before it gets even worst
         
        05-03-2011, 11:33 PM
      #26
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HowClever    
    Okay, I will explain to you nicely what to do...

    Get a qualified trainer.
    My family doesn't have the money to afford a trainer. We have money to afford the horse is needs, such as vets, feed, farrier, ect. , but no money to put towards a trainer. I think I'd rather work with her myself anyway.
         
        05-03-2011, 11:34 PM
      #27
    Trained
    You're being criticised because you continue to back pedal every time someone says something to contradict you.
    Telling us that you can't lead her because she drags you around... then when you're told this is NOT respectful behaviour, you say it's only happened once.
    Telling us you can't bathe her because she's now terrified of water... then when you are told that this is not good ground manners, you say it's only happened once.

    So what is it? Is your mare perfect in every way possible on the ground, never moves into your space, will move away from any pressure you put on her, will stand quietly and not move a muscle while tied, will happily stand to be bathed and will lead like a puppy dog on a long rope and stop the second you stop, turn the second you turn and walk the second you walk, always next to your shoulder and not barging in on your or dragging you anywhere.

    OR

    Does she have not so great ground manners that need work? Because from what you've said, and I'm going from original posts by you not the ones that you have tried to back pedal in, that you are far from experienced and this horse has pulled the wool over your eyes. You need an experienced trainer before your mare decides its had enough of this kid that is starting to really irritate her, and turns around to have a go at you.
    Don't get yourself injured or killed. Horses are big, strong animals that are not to be messed with.
         
        05-03-2011, 11:35 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nokeen    
    horses aren't about feeling nice and being friends, they are large animals that can very easily kill you. I said you need to hold her while you bath her to give her security, that is my advice, your response is I can't hold her she pulls away. What in that sentence would make me think you are capable of leading her? If you can not hold her you need to have someone help you, something I also said, so that it is a safe environment for not only the thousand pound animal but for you.
    She's 800 pounds.. And I can lead her, I swear. If you want pictures, I'll gladly give you picture's of me leading her plus riding her. I will give you proof.
         
        05-03-2011, 11:38 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xXWildFlowerXx    
    My family doesn't have the money to afford a trainer. We have money to afford the horse is needs, such as vets, feed, farrier, ect. , but no money to put towards a trainer. I think I'd rather work with her myself anyway.
    And with that, I am out. Adios.
         
        05-03-2011, 11:39 PM
      #30
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xXWildFlowerXx    
    My family doesn't have the money to afford a trainer. We have money to afford the horse is needs, such as vets, feed, farrier, ect. , but no money to put towards a trainer. I think I'd rather work with her myself anyway.
    if you can't pay for one then no you don't have the money to properly care for your horse because this is a very big thing that every horse needs if someone isnt around that can do it. And even if you are a good trainer that does not mean you are going to be able to deal with every horse and every situation. You can look into finding someone who will let you work for their services, there are plenty out there
         

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