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post #11 of 38 Old 07-30-2009, 01:50 AM
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Gah, I can't stand the one rein stop. I honestly beleive that fi I pulled my horses head around to me knee any faster than maybe a trot, he would either trip or flip over. I think it's more dangerous than the horse bolting in the first place.
you are right, it's dangerous if you do it at the trot or faster. that's why you don't do it right then. you spiral the horse down. the main point is not the head bending, but the hips disengaging to stop the front feet.

you go forward at the walk, sit down with your seat (deflate and melt into the saddle, turn your body into the letter "C" but without leaning back), say whoa, and pick up one rein to bend him around and disengage him

when you can stop your horse with just your seat, then go to the trot.

trot, sit with your seat, pick up one rein SLOW not yanking....and bend him around to circle down to be able to safely disengage the hip. he stops, you release.

same with the lope.

I use the one rein stop for bolting horses and it's worked 100% of the time.

You can then get the horse to stop with just your seat and that you barely pick up on one rein.

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I agree with the idea of just making him go and go and go. Sit relaxed, stay calm, and just lope and lope and lope. Ask for a slow down, if he doesn't respond, lope some more. Once he responds to your cue, then he can quit.
This is a good idea too. I have done this in an arena where I know the ground is good and not full of gopher holes. It does work. You keep your body relaxed and just go with the horse. If you tense, you'll just prolong the runaway.
Then, when the horse is trying to slow down, speed up a bit, then you choose when you slow down and stop.

It works....but it can take longer than the use of the one rein stop.

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post #12 of 38 Old 07-30-2009, 03:04 AM
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^^ See, I get my horses stopping off my seat without the one rein stop. I use the one rein stop at a halt to stretch out a horses neck muscles and teach them to give to the bit, but I really don't find a use for it any other time. I use my legs to disengage hindquarters, not the bit. *Shrugs* Different ways to the same end, I just personally don't like the idea of the one rein stop.

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one thing I use to do that helped a lot is one rein stops, very randomly and quite often, that makes you unpredictable so that the horse doesn't start to think for you.

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^^ I just personally don't like the idea of the one rein stop.
Put me down also as someone who would never use the one rein stop. How many of you have experienced going down, head over heals on a horse?? I have gone done for one reason or another 3 times over the past 2 years and it is not fun. One time the horse landed totally on my leg pinning me to the ground under him. Again not fun. I limped for months over that one.
I will not ride a horse that I can't pull down in the event of a run away and I do ride run aways for other people. I believe in using a big bit with extremely soft hands. I want more bit then I need but use it gently until the time comes that you don't use it gently. I want respect from the horse, I want him to know what I am capable of.
Again the legs, the butt, the voice, the WEIGHT of the reins are all used before the bit is actually used but in the end if all else fails the horse will be set down hard. No acceptions. I will ride knowing if all hell breaks loose I will set the horse down. This can not be done with rubber bits, plastic bits, bitless, etc.
Climb on a run away, a horse you never rode before and the only reason you are on that horse is because everyone gave up and in 2 simple set downs have that horse slid to a stop the 3rd time with voice only.
That is satifying, rough on the horse but satisfying
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post #15 of 38 Old 07-30-2009, 10:57 AM
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Add me to the list that can't stand one rein stops. I train for flexibility.

If my horse gets chargy, we circle down or I push for roll back.
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I agree with Riosdad, if a horse tries to do the runaway on me and nothing else works, I am going to haul their ass into the ground. I've never been on a horse who was so strong I wasn't able to when I set my mind to it, and i've ridden some pretty strong horses. However, with my personal horses, it never gets that far.

A good technique on a horse who constantly tries to run away is do some run downs... In an arena or somewhere enclosed. Start out at maybe a trot... Trot the length and then ask gently for a whoah, and if there is no respond, you MAKE the whoah. I've never seen a horse who took more than three rundowns before they listened to the gentle whoah. Then step it up to canter and do the same. They soon learn to seek the gentle whoah.

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I dislike the idea of running them till their tired, I've never had it work for me. I do thing circles (Spriling larger and smaller) and tons of transitions is a good way to get them to focus on you rather than running around. Rollbacks also come in handy.
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Thanks for everyones advice. Accutally, people have told me to do the one-rein stop when I had trouble with his rack. It didn't work to well but I found another way. I was a little iffy about the one-rein stop at the canter. He can be clutsy when turned into a circle (NEVER did circles before we got him). The trainer told me to disengage for a big step, then disengage, disengage, disengage until he shows down. It wasn't working too well, but I guess I didn't give it enough of a chance (I was SO frustrated yesterday . . . little impatient). The barn that I'm at has a small round pen, should I practice in there or do you think it's too small (idk if we can canter in there, but we might be able too). I've tried running them till they're tired . . . that takes FOREVER and he's dripping sweat. When he slowed down a little, I asked for just a little bit faster and he burst into a gallop. Like, SOME days he's perfectly slow and nice at the canter. Then Tuesday, he was HORRIBLE! He's good somedays, and bad others.

I mean, he's not going to run away with me or anything, but his canter can be insanely fast and it takes a lot of effort to slow him down. Soemtimes I resort to yanking and I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT! I want him to get the message that when I ask for the canter, I want it slow unless I ask for more, how do I teach him that?

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Like a lot of us have been saying, circles and transitions. You also need to figure out WHY he is acting impulsive. Are you sure it's not a pain issue? Does his tack fit? What kind of bit are you using? Is there any way you could get a video?
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My trainer and I found that when the mare im riding was trained 6 years ago, she was trained to go fast and nothing else. Ive only been working her for about 5 months, she hasnt been riden since she was trained. she does remember how to do one thing- go FAST!!! Heres the things that Ive worked on with her, and shes quite a bit slower. * Small circles at a sitting trot and only ask her to extend in when you want. IF she does it before asked, let her know. as my trainer says, make going her way uncomfortable for her, make he halt completely, very tight circles, etc (Whatever your horse doesnt want to do). Work alot at the lounge line, and make sure your horse listens to simple comands, ex( walk trot, canter, whoa, or whatever you use). Then, only use these under saddle and nothing else so they know what you want. we have just gotten her canter under control, and we did this in a small arena. only canter small distances and then ask for a trot, walk, whoa. this shows them that they cant go off. wait again until they are completely listening to you, then do this again. they need to know you are in charge, and thier decisions are not allowd when you are working with them. hope this helps a little. I've been struggling with the same types of things, and this is what helped me.
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