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    02-12-2011, 01:34 AM
LOL, how much experience do you have successfully training horses? Horses that are soft, responsive, calm, and happy?
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    02-12-2011, 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Loveeemyhorseee    
^ sad ^ , but as in response to your last sentence. Here is a revolutionary idea...Do your research and maybe people would give your posts the time of day
Oh that just shows your lack of horse knowledge. I have been doing this for years and SMROBS is one of the more knowledgeable people especially on bits that I have seen. Too bad you can not see that. Perhaps when you get some time under your belt you too will under stand.
    02-12-2011, 02:11 AM
Wow. You know what I think...I think you are just here to stir up trouble. You have tangled with two very well respected horse people. I think you are no more than a trouble maker who thinks that if you make enough noise, people will magically change their minds.

You have missed about 40 GREAT points that smrobs and nrhareiner have made! On person cannot possibly be that DULL!

So how do you sleep at night knowing that you strap a saddle to your horses back?

How do you live with yourself knowing that you feed your horse a diet that isn't even close to being natural.

How can you look at yourself in the mirror while your horse is being kept against his will in a paddock? Or God forbid, a stall!
    02-12-2011, 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
Oh that just shows your lack of horse knowledge. I have been doing this for years and SMROBS is one of the more knowledgeable people especially on bits that I have seen. Too bad you can not see that. Perhaps when you get some time under your belt you too will under stand.
I don't see it at all. I don't see your "knowledge" with bits either. I hate that there is "knowledgeable" people on the topic of bits because I wish they didn't exist, but as usually people don't want to change so they don't look at the reality of things. I mean this post to SMROBS and you.
    02-12-2011, 02:29 AM
And what deity, exactly, made you the omniscient voice for reality? That is honestly some of the most naive arrogance I have seen in quite some time.

I have repeatedly stated that I have no issue at all with people who choose to ride bitless, that is their own personal decision and I guess it was too much to expect that same respect from people like you.

You may wish that bits didn't exist, but as the old saying goes "Wish in one hand, crap in the other and see which one fills up faster".

Liars always think you are lying to them,
Thieves always think you are stealing from them,
Closed minded people always see others as the ones unwilling to change.

You never did answer my question though, how many horses have to trained from start to finish and ended up with soft, responsive, happy horses?
    02-12-2011, 02:33 AM
Don't worry smrobs, she didn't answer my questions either. I believe she is the little girl with her fingers in her ears...nannananana can't hear you! Bits are baaad m'kay?!
    02-12-2011, 02:36 AM
Oh, I'm not worried, I'm actually having quite a fun time on this thread .
    02-12-2011, 03:38 AM
Darn, she ran off again.

I wonder if she is one of those trolls who comes over from other forums to try to rile us up? Second to that, I wonder if she even knows that starting all this drama is actually fun for some of us?
    02-12-2011, 09:01 AM
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Hahahahahahaha!!!!! You two are cracking me up :)
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    02-12-2011, 09:47 AM
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Ok loveeemyhorseee, I must say that I find it insulting how you seem to think you know my horse better than I, to tell me that my horse would prefer bitless but I just want to control her so I make her go in a bit anyway and cause her pain.

Here is a photo of my gorgeous girl...

Now in this photo, I was taking her on a walk on the trails, one of her favorite things to do. Notice NO TACK I'm just walking beside her with just her halter and lead rope. Why am I doing this? Because she was coming off of an injury she sustained in the pasture and she washn't rideable at the time. But I wanted her to still be able to do one of her fave things, going trail riding with me :)

So let me ask you...do I still sound like the sort of person that would purposefully inflict pain on my horse just to control her?

Still not convinced? Ok here's another...

Again, halter and lead rope only...this was just a lazy day when we wanted to bask in the sunlight one spring...this was NOT in an enclosed paddock, it was in the yard. I trust her and she trusts me, and she let me jump up onto her back from the ground without so much as a twitch of her nose. She enjoys the sunshine and eating grass ;) And I enjoy being with her and the sunshine as well! Still sound like I'm a cruel mouth-ripping monster???

My mare is my baby girl - I don't have children but she more than fills that hole for me. I love her more than most people, and I would NEVER do anything to cause her pain.

As I've said before, I have tried riding her in a figure 8 which uses pressure on the nose and she told me right away that she HATED that, by throwing her head around and swishing her tail and getting quick and short with her steps. So I respected that and switched her back to her french link snaffle and her regular noseband which I leave loose for her. She immediately calmed down and went right into our workout, no tail swishing or head tossing.

In dressage, if the judge sees that the horse is not happy, by observing any or all of the things I mentioned above, you lose points on your test. They want a horse who respects her rider and is willingly doing the movements asked of her. So if she was being caused pain by the bit, she likely wouldn't be scoring very high, and we were Champion of our division in Eventing last year so I don't think that's the case ;)

Ok...so, one last thing...you think you know my horse better than I...fill out this questionnaire and see how many you actually get correct...

1. What is my mare's favorite food?
2. Where is her favorite spot to be scratched?
3. Does she like to be groomed?
4. How about when I have the equine masseuse come to give her an hour-long massage, a luxury I don't even give to myself?
5. What's her favorite thing to do within the three phases of Eventing?
6. What does she do when I make kissy noises to her out in the pasture?
7. What tricks does she know?

Go ahead and try to fill that in, I'll give you the answers when you're done ;)

I'll leave you with this final photo...my mare is my fur baby...she is a part of my family. We make a trip out to the barn each year in the dead of winter to make sure she is part of our family's Christmas photo. Do you still think I would do anything to cause her pain?
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