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post #411 of 647 Old 02-13-2011, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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OMG, mine are the same way!! The insanity is catching!!! Everyone run, quarantine your horses immediately!!

I fear, even with therapy, that several of mine may be completely beyond help .

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post #412 of 647 Old 02-13-2011, 10:16 PM
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I like how this thread has been going for awhile quite interesting hehe. I don't get why people have to bash eachother just because they don't like what somone uses. My mare hates the pressure caused by bitless and is very soft in a bit in fact I barely need to touch it because she is so good with leg and seat aids. That would all be due to her training.
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These bitless people would love to meet Abby. She's basically the definition of the horses they're describing. I'm assuming her second owner did something to her at some point. She's terrified of lunge whips too. Her previous owner said he had her about two weeks and had her super sensitive to cues, but super uptight. She doesn't get a bit because I don't want to eat dirt every time I ride.

While we've got this massive discount from the therapist, I may throw Abby in and see what her problem is with bits.
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I am new to this forum so first... hello all, I have to say this is a very interesting thread but seems to have gone a little out to left field. Bit's are a big hunk of metal in your horses mouth that can do a lot of damage and all you people out there making fun of people that don't like bits, you best not forget that. I have no problems with bits but more with the hands that use them.

Personally when I am teaching my students I can not stress enough that it's never about the bit it's about the respect that your horse has for you and for pressure. If your horse clearly understands how to move off pressure then you do not need a bit for simple things. I teach all basics to my horses in a halter and then move up to a bit to refine head position. But other then that I ride in a halter on the trail or for basic schooling.
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I am new to this forum so first... hello all,
First welcome to the forum. Glade you have come to join us.

I have to say this is a very interesting thread but seems to have gone a little out to left field. Bit's are a big hunk of metal in your horses mouth that can do a lot of damage and all you people out there making fun of people that don't like bits, you best not forget that. I have no problems with bits but more with the hands that use them.

Bits are not just a "big hunk of metal" they are a tool just like any other tool. Used properly they can and do make a very light and responsive horse. Used improperly they can do damage. No different then any other tool including a bit-less bridle or a rope halter. They can do just as much damage in the wrong hands.

Personally when I am teaching my students I can not stress enough that it's never about the bit it's about the respect that your horse has for you and for pressure. If your horse clearly understands how to move off pressure then you do not need a bit for simple things. I teach all basics to my horses in a halter and then move up to a bit to refine head position. But other then that I ride in a halter on the trail or for basic schooling.
I agree it is all about the hands. As for basic training. I still want the refinement I get from a bit. That starts day one. I do not want to have to go back and refine what has already been taught. I want that to start from day one. No reason to have to reteach something that could have just as easily been taught the first time through. This is why I use the best trainers I can find for my horses. I do not want to have to redo things.

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Ahem.

We aren't making fun of people who don't like bits. We are "making fun of" those who think people who use bits are abusive monsters.

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^^ What she said. I have some very good friends who I respect immensely that do not use bits on their horses. I never make fun of them for it. But they don't tell me I'm intentionally abusing my horse by putting a bit in their mouth.
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I agree it is all about the hands. As for basic training. I still want the refinement I get from a bit. That starts day one. I do not want to have to go back and refine what has already been taught. I want that to start from day one. No reason to have to reteach something that could have just as easily been taught the first time through. This is why I use the best trainers I can find for my horses. I do not want to have to redo things.


I guess that is where you and I differ, I like to break things down and take things slower. I would never expect a horse to be refined when first learning. Refinement for me come after basic understanding. I don't like to get picky with the horse when it's first being taught a I like the horse to succeed with the littlest try.

For me I don't look at it as redoing things but having the horses education grow.

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I guess that is where you and I differ, I like to break things down and take things slower. I would never expect a horse to be refined when first learning. Refinement for me come after basic understanding. I don't like to get picky with the horse when it's first being taught a I like the horse to succeed with the littlest try.

For me I don't look at it as redoing things but having the horses education grow.
It is not about picking at the horse or refinement as in the finished product.

I am talking about when I direct rein a horse who is just staring I also lay the other rein on their neck and put my outside leg on their side. This way they are learning all the cues at the same time. Now the second they give all the cues are removed.

I also as does my trainer teach the horse to move every inch of their body before they ever move out of the walk. Once they have this then they are moved up to the trot and so on. Not sure you can get much slower then that. Solid well trained horses who are willingly and effortlessly guided is the end goal and what we end up with. I will say that my trainer is much better at it then I am but that is also why I use him.

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Ahem.

We aren't making fun of people who don't like bits. We are "making fun of" those who think people who use bits are abusive monsters.

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Yes, Luveee brought all that "making fun of" on herself. She has no respect for opinions that disagree with hers, but is unable to defend her own opinion in a logical, thoughtful manner when her inconsistencies are pointed out.
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