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        03-17-2011, 11:10 AM
      #461
    Foal
    Suggestions for my new horse

    I bought my horse, Breeze, about eight months ago. The man I got him from was VERY rough with him! When I went to see Breeze the first time he was chained to a post, with a logging chain! Whenever the man would get near him he would panic, which I can understand. I think most people would have never even ridden him from the way he was acting. But, I believed in him and took a chance. From the moment he stepped onto my farm he has been a completely different horse. By far the best personality of any horse I have come in contact with. Sorry, I am making this way too long :)

    What type of bit would you all recommend? He was being ridden western, with spurs, curb bit, etc. Very aggressive! I have been riding him English with a simple snaffle. He does okay with this bit. When we are out trail riding, he gets very determined to go home, naturally. When I try to turn him away from the direction of home it becomes quite difficult. I have tried using leg aides to encourage him to turn in the direction we should be going. He can be sensitive to leg aides because he is used to being spurred! I literally can have his head turned almost back to be knee and he is still moving in the direction he wants to go in. This also becomes an issue when I try to work him in large/small circle. He bends very very hard to the outside of the circle. I think part of this is he is unbalanced.

    So, I think I have said a lot without saying a lot, haha. Thank you for your patience!
         
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        03-17-2011, 11:11 AM
      #462
    Foal
    I love what you said!
         
        04-01-2011, 08:50 PM
      #463
    Foal
    Knowing that both my horse and I are considered green, thank God Benny is patient well patient with me anyway if it isn't feeding time I know I can be heavy on the hands so I tend to not use the bit when she has one in her mouth in turn she gets by with alot when wearing a bit. She also has never really excepted on she constantly fights one being in her mouth whether being ridden or not. I decided since I know I can be heavy in stressful or fearful moments I decided to go bitless she is awesome in a bitless. Of course that limits showing and I still have to work on my hands but I feel more secure that I am not damaging my horse or her mouth. It works for her and she doesn't fight it I'm sure it will not work for every horse but for mine it does and I'm not against bits at all but for me and my horse we will never use them.
         
        04-02-2011, 01:02 PM
      #464
    Green Broke
    You can hurt a horse bitless, heavy hands are heavy hands...
         
        04-02-2011, 06:11 PM
      #465
    Weanling
    My snaffle does not seem to bother my horse. As long as I have soft and light hands she is good. I only use a bit when I go on trails. A simple halter with clip-on reins is what I use in the arena.
         
        04-18-2011, 10:51 AM
      #466
    QHa
    Foal
    How can you tell if you have the wrong or correct bit?
         
        04-18-2011, 03:54 PM
      #467
    Green Broke
    There isn't a right or wrong bit. It is whatever your horse does well in and likes as well as what is legal for dressage/ hunter/WP etc.
         
        04-29-2011, 05:51 PM
      #468
    Foal
    Its been a very long day, so havent read the whole post or the responses yet, but I read the first half and agree. A lot of people do feel the need to get tougher bits instead of retraining. Now I don't think every horse can go in a snaffle, but I believe you should use the mildest bit you can, and instead of just putting more pressure in the mouth which tends to worsen the problems, one should simply spend more time with proper training and save themselves a lot of training and problems in the future! I use a combo bit on my mare, simply because she prefers the dispersed pressure, and I do believe this bit helps a LOT of horses, but it is not a severe bit by any means, just simply applies more poll and nose pressure instead of only bit pressure. Its a myler combo, mullen mouth, so very soft and easy. My mare isnt a fan of a lot of mouth pressure but loves this so for her its a lot less severe than even a simple snaffle! However, I do have a french link snaffle on her that she works fine in as well! When I got her though she came to me with a gag bit and it took months to get her to accept pressure and weve built from there. I think a lot of people would rather not take the time, they simply want a quick fix. Ill have to find a pic of her when I first got her and now....its a HUGE difference, and its due to her willingness to accept pressure in her mouth now. Its still a training issue, even after a year, but she's come a VERY long way and is well worth the effort. Now if only trainers would teach the horse properly from the start mares like mine wouldnt have to go through the hard and long task of getting them to forget the past and move on which takes a lot longer!
         
        04-29-2011, 05:57 PM
      #469
    Foal
    Ok slightly embarrassed to show how my mare used to be lol, but here she is the first day I rode her. Very hollow and bracey


    And now, much more relaxed and accepting (is a pic off my camera haha, Im not at home to upload it so I had to take a pic of it with my cell :) )
         
        05-02-2011, 10:58 AM
      #470
    Foal
    I've only skimmed this thread, but just wanted to add my experience with bitless bridles.

    We have a Canadian mare who is a very sweet, easygoing and respectful 10 year old. We have had her since she was 2, she was started at 4 in a full-cheek snaffle. She is perfectly behaved to be ridden in a halter and lead rope. We thought we'd try a bitless bridle with her out of curiosity.

    Well, our mild-mannered and darling mare freaked out. After only a few minutes, she started shaking and tossing her head, and a few minutes later started bucking. O_O

    Back to the full cheek snaffle, and she is happy once again.

    Bitless probably works for lots of people, but there will be horses like ours that cannot tolerate the way pressure works across the poll and around the nose and jaw. I can imagine it feels very restricting.

    Perhaps you can't do the physical damage with a bitless bridle that you could with a piece of metal in extremely poor hands, but any poor horseman can ruin a horse with any device.
         

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