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    05-02-2011, 03:58 PM
  #471
Green Broke
Great post Magaidh!
     
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    05-04-2011, 02:26 AM
  #472
Started
I ride my horse with a bitless bridle, And he can stop on a dime and turn really sharp with it. He used to be horrible with the bit but now, after ground work he is great (: And I totally agree with all you said (:
     
    05-04-2011, 11:45 PM
  #473
Foal
Thanks for a great post smrobs. I have just survived a horse doggedly determined that she was going home, with or without me!! Probably the most scary experience of my life, but I did stay on, for which I am eternally thankful as I feel sure that I wouldn't have bounced had I fallen off.

No, I haven't automatically thought "put a stronger bit on her" but instead am having the thought of "lets retrain the rider", after briefly entertaining the thought of lets wear the horse out in the home paddock before we venture out the gate!! However, I know ultimately that won't fix the problem, she will merely rise to the challenge and get fitter, and the problem will just get bigger etc etc. So re-training the rider it is.

Well, that's my vent for the afternoon. I'm still alive, deep breath here (still shaking an hour later) and I will live to ride another day.
     
    05-05-2011, 03:22 PM
  #474
Green Broke
Good that you haven't given up! It's pretty scary when your horse decides it is going somewhere and going there fast :)
     
    05-23-2011, 05:24 AM
  #475
Foal
The snaffle is the best and worst bit in the world, in the proper hands it teaches softness, improper pain and suffering.

Most of all the snaffle is the Training Bit, get your softness suppleness and ease of ask with the snaffle then you go to a curb or something with a port to minimize your movements. That's why, pull out our NRHA rule book and see the allowed port size (3.5") with 6" shank, they get a lot with a little movement.

Personally I take mine back to a hackamore/bosal from time to time.... or heck even loop my lead into the halter

GREAT POST
     
    05-25-2011, 02:35 PM
  #476
Foal
My mare came with a pelham in her mouth, she didnt need it as I can school her just fine in a french link snaffle... although it takes about 10minuted befor she will work in an outline but at least when she does accept the bit its not forced!

HOWEVER... when out hacking in a group she is soo strong that I do change her bit to her pelhham because it gives me more brakes... I think its kinder to give a slight pull in a harsher bit than yanking at her mouth with a snaffle...

I do agree though that horses should no be trained in a harsh bit... but they are out there for a reason and my pelham has nearly saved my life on a few occasions lol xx
     
    06-02-2011, 01:11 AM
  #477
Foal
Hi, I'm new to this forum, but this is a topic that interests me specifically. I ride bitless, but I am wondering what the research is to back up the thought system that bits are good? I'm just trying to educate myself more on them.
     
    06-02-2011, 01:17 AM
  #478
Foal
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Originally Posted by Loveeemyhorseee    
I don't see it at all. I don't see your "knowledge" with bits either. I hate that there is "knowledgeable" people on the topic of bits because I wish they didn't exist, but as usually people don't want to change so they don't look at the reality of things. I mean this post to SMROBS and you.
You were fairly new when you posted this right? Maybe you should have waited until you had some sort of reputation before you started debating with smart horsemen and women. I ride bitless, but I think what they are trying to say is that you can ride bitless and they accept that and a healthy, educated debate would be fun, but you also have to accept that they are educated on bits and you need to accept their ways of riding horses too.
     
    06-02-2011, 01:28 AM
  #479
Foal
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Originally Posted by LoganandMe    
You were fairly new when you posted this right? Maybe you should have waited until you had some sort of reputation before you started debating with smart horsemen and women. I ride bitless, but I think what they are trying to say is that you can ride bitless and they accept that and a healthy, educated debate would be fun, but you also have to accept that they are educated on bits and you need to accept their ways of riding horses too.
Hi everybody! LoganandMe, you are new to this forum and I am not so I don't think what you wrote was nice or fair. You also aren't a true bitless rider if you just accept that people ride with bits. No, they didn't accept that I ride bitless. I am educated, probably more educated than you.
     
    06-02-2011, 01:34 AM
  #480
Foal
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Originally Posted by Loveeemyhorseee    
Hi everybody! LoganandMe, you are new to this forum and I am not so I don't think what you wrote was nice or fair. You also aren't a true bitless rider if you just accept that people ride with bits. No, they didn't accept that I ride bitless. I am educated, probably more educated than you.
Sorry you thought that I was being mean, but personally I feel like you were being mean to some of the smarter people on the forum. They accepted that you ride bit-less and you didn't accept that they ride with bits. I ride my horse bit-less, but I go to a camp where they use bits so I ride their horses in bits. That is their choice and I wouldn't attack them on that because they are knowledgeable people that have been riding longer than I have and I want to learn from them. I have read up on bits (I am still learning about them) and I ride bit-less, yes, but that doesn't mean that I will despise everybody who rides with bits and call them horse abusers.
     

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