I respect and understand what you are all saying in your earlier posts. I'm 28 and I've been riding for almost 20 years. I've talked to my trainer about this also and I guess I like to have opinions of others to see what others think. I love getting advise, especially if it will help my horse and I. I always think of my horse first and I know that training and riding your horse properly is most important.
Hi I will just keep this short because I know that this isn't a forum for this, but I just wanted to apologize in case any of you didn't see my post in the welcome forum. I gave my password to a friend because she wanted to read and post to learn about horses, I didn't check it for a while and then saw this. I have since changed my password. The views she wrote are not mine at ALL. Some things I talked to her about like the fire/water/wind magically ended up on here. So I'm so sorry. I love Jonathan Field and he rides with a bit and achieves incredible connections with his horses. So yes, once again really sorry and I promise my views are not the same as hers.
I am very new to all of this. We rescued a retired team penning horse that sat in the pasture for 2 years with little human contact. He loves attention and you can tell he was well trained at one time. We have tried 3 different bits at the advice of our feed store owner. 1. Tom thumb, 2. Wonder bit, and 3. Hackamore. When he has the bit in he fights it and bites on it. He has alot of get up and go. Could someone please tell me what we should try that won't hurt him?
1. Get his teeth check and floated, if necessary.
2. Throw the Tom Thumb and mechanical hackamore out the window.
3. If possible, have a professional trainer evaluate the horse and see how much is a training problem, how much is rider error, and how much is a bit problem.
4. Experiment. Befriend someone with a massive bit collection and get to work trying things. Start with a rope halter. Perhaps a Little S hackamore. Maybe a snaffle of sorts, though I doubt it in your horse's case. If you absolutely cannot try before you buy, I'd pick up something like a dogbone Junior Cowhorse or a Billy Allen / Myler curb.
5. Put Mr. Pinto on a diet!
Thank you for your reply. He is on a diet. He is set up to go to the vet on friday. I would to meet with a trainer but where I live there isn't any. I wish I knew who trained him to start with but the horse was just left in the field and the owner finally surrender him so I do not have any history on him except that he was a team penning horse.
Great Post! So many people don't understand that what you do to a horses' face and mouth does not dictate what their feet do. Bits don't train horses, people do. The bit can only relay what your hands do, different bits only change the way you "sound" to your horse, it does not teach them anything you don't know how to teach.
Bits are just like cell phones. Getting a "smart phone" doesn't make you any smarter. That phone will only send messages you tell it to. Bits are the same.
What you have in the horses mouth is not going to control what the feet end up doing.
My horse is a wonderful example, he is a unique horse with a mind of his own. If you were to try to control him by the bit you would be in for a wild ride ;) Turning his head to his butt, or cranking it into his chest will not "control" him. Putting a stronger bit in his mouth will not "control" him and make him go where you want him to - he will take you where he wants, at the speed he wants. The stronger you get with your hands, the stronger he becomes and the faster he will go. I see a lot of riders locally do these things to "control" their horses and it makes me cringe. I rode him in a french link snaffle in the beginning - now I can either do a halter or french link.
The bad habbit he has, is what I love him for. I love the speed, the power - and now it's controlled speed and power - and always on my terms. I achieved this partnership and control without harsh hands or stronger bits. I just don't see the need for them. I have always been able to achieve my goals without those things.