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    01-26-2012, 06:27 PM
  #531
Yearling
I start all my colts in a snaffle and don't see any reason in keeping them in a snaffle forever, lol. My mare will neckrein, etc in the snaffle just fine. I do alternate between a couple smooth snaffles I have and a twisted wire when she gets a little dull in her mouth. I like to keep her on her toes!
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    02-03-2012, 04:55 PM
  #532
Foal
I have a coming three yr old TWH gelding that will be lightly started this summer. I have ridden gaited and non gaited before and always use either a french link eggbutt snaffle or a french link full cheek bit. Some of the "walker crowd" keep telling me I shouldn't be doing this, that a gaited horse has to have a gaited bit. Why? I don't think so, am I wrong?

I have always ridden the gaiteds like I ride the non gaiteds (same cues, they just have a different "second gear") and they always seemed to do fine, they held all their gaits well and moved along easily. These same folks keep telling me that my horse will not be able to hold his head correctly in a regular snaffle and therefore he will not gait properly. He gaits (as well as trots, which I am actually pleased with since we will be able to do hunter classes too) in the pasture and he seems to have no trouble picking up any gait no matter where his head is. Maybe the head set issue is only a concern for shows? Couldn't a headset and a balanced horse be achieved with a TWH with a regular snaffle?

I do not ride big lick and in fact my walker has never even seen a shoe much less that padded crap. This also seems to astound many people, but I want my horse to move well because he has been trained to use himself properly not because I have gadgeted him into it. This thread has been very thought provoking, thank you to everyone for the advice.
     
    02-13-2012, 10:09 PM
  #533
Foal
I agree competely. My horse technically isn't controlled by the bit itself. I use a standard walking horse bit (he's a tennessee walker) and he responds mostly to the curb strap. You only need to use slight pressure on the rein and he responds immediately to the slight squeeze of the curb.
     
    02-22-2012, 01:57 AM
  #534
Foal
A family friend of ours STARTED her gelding out in a low port curb. She direct reins him and still does. He was only 3. He is 8 now and gets ridden in a walking horse bit. Ugh the women doesn't know what she was doing from the get go and that horses mouth is probably so screwed up. He has NO lateral flexion what so ever and has so many bad habits when riding. Sorry I'm ranting, but I though I would add in my 2 cents of how people DON'T know the difference between curbs and snaffles.
     
    02-26-2012, 09:59 AM
  #535
Weanling
I've tried a few different snaffle bits. My mare carries the D ring and tomb thumb quietly, but she doesn't like the o ring at all she chomps on it so much that I quit using it.
     
    03-21-2012, 09:14 AM
  #536
Weanling
My horse always went in a French-link snaffle until I started asking for more collection and engagement in our dressage and started doing a bit of jumping (where he is very strong), and I started riding him in an eggbutt hanging snaffle, which, whilst still being a snaffle, had a little more strength to it when required, and meant I could be more subtle with my hands in the dressage. What I found though, was that when anyone else rode him (I have him on working livery while I'm at uni) he found the hanging snaffle too much and they were too hard on his mouth with it. I've changed now to riding him in a double bridle myself, so that I have the extra finesse when required, but I've left his old french link on his other bridle for anyone else to ride him in. Seems to work well - he trusts me not to be gentle with the double, and schooling has come on in leaps and bound, whilst my lovely horse's mouth is still safe from everyone else!
     
    03-25-2012, 01:33 AM
  #537
Trained
Nice post, thanks for taking the time.

I agree, its all training not the bit, but sometime conventional methods just won't get it. Until my current mare, which I got as a filly, I never had any problems with other horses not responding to a bit, but she just walked right through them. She did beautifully and what was asked at everything else, just not "whoa". I am not willing to put extreme pressure on a horse's mouth, or see-saw it to death so I would have to turn her to get her to stop. I went through 3 snaffles, and a waterford - and miles of "backing up". I worked and worked to get her to "get" that when I pick up the reins, all four feet need to come to a halt in two steps...not looking for a reining stop here! She seemed to respond to the french link the best, but not entirely. It was sooo frustrating. I decided there was some sort of "disconnect", so I trained her on the ground at liberty to stop cold when I said "halt". I applied this in the saddle simultaneousely w the reins and seat. It worked! I am still using the french link. I will never know what the trouble was.

But I will say this - I don't like the thought of putting any sort of metal in my horses mouth that says "made in china".
     
    04-10-2012, 04:38 PM
  #538
Weanling
Mft???

My mft wouldnt respond to a snaffle.. even at 2 when he was training... he is hard headed all on his own.. its the only horse I know like this but recently last year I put a hackmore and twisted snaffle in his mouth and recently this month I have taken him down to just the twisted snaffle so what your saying is im training him backwards? I havent ever trained a horse this way but it works for him and now in the arena I can get him to listen to cues with a reg snaffle... sooo.... im not trying to be a smart ass im actualy looking for a reason on why my horse when backwards with this bit thing?
     
    04-10-2012, 04:44 PM
  #539
Weanling
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Originally Posted by smokeslastspot    
I have a coming three yr old TWH gelding that will be lightly started this summer. I have ridden gaited and non gaited before and always use either a french link eggbutt snaffle or a french link full cheek bit. Some of the "walker crowd" keep telling me I shouldn't be doing this, that a gaited horse has to have a gaited bit. Why? I don't think so, am I wrong?

I have always ridden the gaiteds like I ride the non gaiteds (same cues, they just have a different "second gear") and they always seemed to do fine, they held all their gaits well and moved along easily. These same folks keep telling me that my horse will not be able to hold his head correctly in a regular snaffle and therefore he will not gait properly. He gaits (as well as trots, which I am actually pleased with since we will be able to do hunter classes too) in the pasture and he seems to have no trouble picking up any gait no matter where his head is. Maybe the head set issue is only a concern for shows? Couldn't a headset and a balanced horse be achieved with a TWH with a regular snaffle?

I do not ride big lick and in fact my walker has never even seen a shoe much less that padded crap. This also seems to astound many people, but I want my horse to move well because he has been trained to use himself properly not because I have gadgeted him into it. This thread has been very thought provoking, thank you to everyone for the advice.



I actualy rescued a twh last year im starting him out this year... I don't use walking bits or whatever... he's a horse and he's yours. Its kindof like teaching him to rack that's your desicion im prbably going to run barrels with mine and a lot of walker people are probably going to get mad but he's my horse I can care less about gaits! He would be no use to me..
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    04-10-2012, 05:20 PM
  #540
Green Broke
All horses are different. I don't think your method was wrong or backwards. A lot of QH trainers start their colts bitless, in a bosal, before moving onto a bit.
     

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