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        05-24-2012, 02:47 PM
      #561
    Foal
    I posted something kinda similar asking the difference with the snaffle and curb when it comes to reining.
    I have rode for many years mostly with family and friends since I didnt grow up around horses and have been reading about bits etc.

    I do agree to have your horse into a snaffle as much as possible! I guess I didnt realize that snaffles are made for two handed reins over neck reining and the curb is made for neck reining?
    May I ask why it is designed like that?

    I just ordered a myler low port comfort snaffle with a center barrel. Would that be good as if I were to use a reg curb?
    ((Myler Bits Stainless Steel HBT Shank Bit with a 5 Inch Sweet Iron Low Port Comfort Snaffle Mouth))

    Thanks for all your help! :)
         
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        05-25-2012, 12:56 PM
      #562
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ambrose    
    I posted something kinda similar asking the difference with the snaffle and curb when it comes to reining.
    I have rode for many years mostly with family and friends since I didnt grow up around horses and have been reading about bits etc.

    I do agree to have your horse into a snaffle as much as possible! I guess I didnt realize that snaffles are made for two handed reins over neck reining and the curb is made for neck reining?
    May I ask why it is designed like that?

    Snaffle is used when 2 hands are needed. Be it a green horse or an even that requires a snaffle.

    I just ordered a myler low port comfort snaffle with a center barrel. Would that be good as if I were to use a reg curb?
    ((Myler Bits Stainless Steel HBT Shank Bit with a 5 Inch Sweet Iron Low Port Comfort Snaffle Mouth))

    Thanks for all your help! :)

    That is not a snaffle. That is a curb bit. It has shanks. The difference between a snaffle and a curb is the shank. Not the mouth peice.
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        05-25-2012, 02:59 PM
      #563
    Foal
    Ok.... good to know however what about reining???
         
        05-25-2012, 05:48 PM
      #564
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ambrose    
    ok.... good to know however what about reining???
    Reining as in the sport or an in Neck reining??
         
        06-07-2012, 06:34 AM
      #565
    Foal
    Haven't read all of the replies but my horse will respond to the bit, but I do prefer to use my seat with her :) x
         
        06-08-2012, 06:22 PM
      #566
    Foal
    Thanks for this post! It is very needed :)

    I totally agree! A harder bit (or any "harder" gear, spurs etc..) are for finesse, not for "ease"..
    That's not a lazy horse.. Its a lazy rider!

    This harasses me so much.. people riding in spurs and hard bits on young horses (or untrained horses).. poor horse has no chance to become light and responsive..
    Its training they need..
    Start as light as possible, and when they respond.. STOP ASKING.. or asking for more right away... give them a chance !!
    Also wanting to place a horse "in position", is not done by carrying your horse, but by warm up, and training into position..

    Happy Training,
         
        06-12-2012, 03:15 PM
      #567
    Foal
    I Agree!!! My friend owns a 12yr old TB that was a racehorse. First show he took off and pulled her shoulder out of the socket (We had him in a frenchlink for retraining puroses) Then she went to a snaffle he was fine on the flat but once jumping he was taking off. Then she put a kimberwick on he was good at first then again running through the bit. Then she put a phelem on. Reaction was the same as the kimberwick. Then she had a slow twist snaffle and he did fine for about a year. Now she's putting a hackamore on him becuase she was told it was harsher than any bit... Im not sure what to tell her.
         
        06-12-2012, 09:38 PM
      #568
    Foal
    I have seen this exact problem many many times, its very common in OTTB's.

    I would suggest your friend find a trainer who can help BOTH her and her horse to learn about *softening into the contact*. This is a fundamental step in good training that requires the horse to learn to reach for the end of the reins and maintain a soft relaxed back, neck and poll while accepting contact with the riders hands. Many people will try to use a harsh bit to get the horse to tuck its nose in, incorrectly thinking that is "softening"; what it really is, is the horse avoiding the communication of the riders hands due to discomfort.

    Correctly achieving Soft Contact is not a quick fix, rather an important piece of a good training/riding foundation. Doing this requires a fairly well established *independent seat* and steady, sensitive hands. It could take anywhere from several weeks to a year or more before this step is well established, but with what you posted about her current issues, I'm willing to say its probably the only thing that will PERMANANTLY correct the problem.
         
        06-13-2012, 10:45 AM
      #569
    Foal
    My old trainer(her current one) thinks that boomer just needs a regular snaffle. I've helped work with boomer and he goes into a nice frame if you drop your hands a little and open them. But her trainer wants her hands up and closed. They recently stoped hinters and are now training for mini prix... I havent seen Boomer since January because I left so I could get a horse that could take me where I wanted to go. Last I herd he was alot better with his taking off and doing better on the bit. She wants to bring him over to my place once my leg heals so ill be able to see how he is really doing.
         
        06-27-2012, 05:54 PM
      #570
    Foal
    I feel like a good rider now :3 I ride with really soft hands, partly because I lack some feeling and strength in my hands and particularly my fingers.
    I never have any trouble stopping or moving my horse, he is on a plain old eggbutt snaffle. I can usually do an entire ride without actually pulling the bit, I squeeze the reins with my fingers gentle squeeze then release around corners or a good squeeze with my fingers on the reins if he's going too fast. Or to tell him to steady up when he's a bit off balance, but I mean squeeze with my fingers a tiny bit, like really very little effort and he knows (love him!). He is very good with his vocal commands, when you want him to stop you say stop and he stops, you say walk and he walks, trot and he trots, you want him to canter you say canter and he canters and in reverse order. Sometimes saying jump is nessecary too lol! He rides on the bit with just a little encouragement with your third finger but he is still building up the muscle and learning how to do this but he actually does it by himself most of the time.

    I've seen tons of horses go on stronger and stronger bits, I personally like the bit there to guide the front end directionally and for emergency stops. Otherwise I barely ever use it. But he is the only horse I have ever ridden which I can do this on.
    So I'm in no way saying bits are bad or anyone that needs to use the bit is bad or anything. I've ridden flippin, hundreds of horses which are not as responsive to the bit.
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