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        08-21-2014, 12:15 PM
      #631
    Foal
    I agree completely. Every horse should be able to be ridden bitless if it had good training, same for the rider.
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        09-15-2014, 11:58 PM
      #632
    Foal
    Well said, this is great! Thanks for posting this! It's opened my eyes up to my horse, and why his mouth is so hard. I bought him from a girl that did that exact thing. She used a snaffle, and eventually made him wear a Martha Josa Million Dollar bit, (I think it's called) with a noseband, AND a tiedown. I'm soft with my hands, so it's been a challenge to teach him to be soft in his mouth, with the regular snaffle training bit. He's doing fantastic, and I can run him on Barrels in a snaffle!! His only issues are rearing, and stopping. His old owner didn't teach him to slow before each hard turn, and that's why she had such harsh bits on him, she made him slow down without him understanding the concept, which results in awful turns.. So I'm working on his turning, stopping and rollbacks! I'm so proud of him!
         
        11-18-2014, 05:33 PM
      #633
    Yearling
    I just recently purchased a spotted saddle horse. He is 9 yrs old and seems to be a good horse. When I was looking at him to buy him, I had the owner ride him and asked him to do different things which he did. I noticed that the owner used a tom thumb with no chin strap. The horse did well and was very controllable. I liked the horse and bought him. I still like him and like him more each day I get to know him. I have given him some settling in time. He is coming along well. I am planning to ride him with in a few days. The bit thing really concerns me because many people are telling me that he has a good mouth because of how controllable he was with out a chin strap. Bottom line is I do not want to ruin his mouth. I have a D-ring snaffle and a DL Reiner with a Billy Allen mouthpiece. Please advise. Thanx
         
        12-11-2014, 10:45 PM
      #634
    Foal
    My opinion is if you can get a horse light in a snaffle and working off your leg. He should be able to go into a short shank bit very easily. I always use a broken mouthpiece and a short shank, they have worked well for me. Also I have dropped from a snaffle several time to a TT bit and they have worked well for me.
         
        12-17-2014, 12:06 AM
      #635
    Foal
    I only want to know peoples opinion on this bit

    Reinsman Circle R Offset Dee, CR225 - Tractor Supply Co.

    I'm still ground training and waiting for spring to begin riding, which I'll be the first person ever to be on her back. My mare is actually really gentle and I usually never run into problems with her or her fighting me. So is this bit going to be gentle enough or is there something softer? I want to go bitless and will, but with having to start her in riding and her being the first I've ever started, I guess I'm buying the bit more out of fear to me it seems, yet I'm still getting one, for whatever reasons. I just want whats going to be light and easy in her mouth, and this seemed to be the best that I've seen so far.
         
        12-19-2014, 12:32 PM
      #636
    Foal
    Hi All!

    My boy is a retired Dressage horse. He came to me in a Kimberwicke bit with a curb chain, and I was told to tighten the chain if he ran thru the bit. Say What???
    And I rode him in it, with a loose curb the first season I had him.
    The next year, I got a dr cooks bitless bridle off ebay. It took about 15 minutes in the round pen to introduce him to the bridle, and we've used it ever since.
    Honestly, I can't really tell much difference in the way he responds, and the bitless has just got to be more comfortable.
    ByeBye! Steve
         
        02-15-2015, 10:37 AM
      #637
    Foal
    Smile Help on this situation

    7 yr old TWH/spotted saddle horse gelding. I have had him since he was a greenbroke 2yr old. Very willing, excellant all around trail horse with one exception. In the round pen, very sensitive and responsive. Likewise out on the trail . I can ride him in a snaffle, a sidepull, a broken bit with modest shanks , a hackamore. The only problem is that regardless of what is in his mouth or not, I feel like I have to check him back too often when his desire is to running walk or canter and my desire is to slow walk. I would like to be "off" his mouth and have him be as responsive to my subtle cues out on the trail as he is in an enclosure. I suspect their is some schooling technique I might use that has nothing to do with the bit- I'm open to any suggestions- thanks!
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        02-16-2015, 02:57 PM
      #638
    Foal
    @birdogman - Hello, it is always nice to see another fellow gaited owner out there! Your walker sounds wonderful and reminds me of my fox trotting gelding. Gaited horses enjoy to gait out on the trail; mine prefers to flatwalk the majority of the time.

    With gaited horses gaits like the running walk are typically performed with a moderate to collected rein. So, if you check him back be sure you release the pressure because a constant consistent pressure will encourage a running walk or flatwalk (so always be sure to release all pressure once you get a trailwalk out of him). A technique I do with my gaited horse is teaching him to slow down and stop with my seat; this way I can get him in a trailwalk without the use of the reins. If you work constantly on transitioning between gaits and stopping out on the trail and in open fields your horse should trailwalk a little nicer for you. Use an increase of pressure method when transitioning down; first ask with seat, then add light rein pressure if your horse didn't respond to the seat, then increase until you get the desired speed, and at the point you get the desired speed release pressure.
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        03-08-2015, 09:35 PM
      #639
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by superx2duck    
    I read your entire post...makes sense. I am not a beginner but, neither an expert. Here is my issue. I have 9 year old quarter horse mare (ex-race track mare) I bought her in March of this year. Since then I have rode her almost everyday. I really like her. BUT, she really shakes her head side to side when asking for a stop. She side passes, backs, lopes circles, all around does everything pretty good. She just has to "shake" before she'll stop. By the way, I have been riding here with a sweet six with a life saver mouthpiece. I have tried a snug tie down, no tie down. She'll lope off at a stand still but when you ask for a STOP...she'll shake bad side to side. Her teeth are ok and no other problems at all. Whatcha' think?
    If I am getting the correct picture without actually seeing it myself, I think it is definitely related to the bit. Possibly the one you are using or one that she was previously trained to stop with and no one bothered to correct the headshake and now it's a habit. I would both look for a bit that she is more comfortable with ( sometimes it's not the amount of leverage, it's the shape of the bit that the horse isn't comfortable with ), plus go back to some basics in teaching her to stop.
         

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