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post #61 of 647 Old 09-08-2010, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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Yep, that timing comes with practice. I didn't start getting really good about the release until I was in my mid/late teens (had been riding for 10 or 12 years). Even now, I am still a bit slow occasionally but one good thing about having horses is that you never stop learning and improving if that's what you want to do.
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post #62 of 647 Old 09-08-2010, 11:55 AM
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Great read all the way through. If you don't mind Smrobs, I'd like to email this to some people I know.
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post #63 of 647 Old 09-08-2010, 12:25 PM
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I was actually just told by a popular dressage trainer in my area that I have to change my mares bit. Why ? Because happy mouth bits make horses dull and heavy apparently....
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MNT, I don't mind at all. E-mail away.

Gypsy, I can't speak much about happy mouth bits as I have never even held one, let alone used one. With the proper training, though, it shouldn't have any different results. The only problem that might pop up with those is that it might mute some of the more subtle cues that are felt in metal but lost in plastic/rubber. Though I can't really be sure.

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post #65 of 647 Old 09-09-2010, 03:05 AM
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I have to tell you what I discovered a couple of weeks ago. I went to this garage sale and saw this woman had that completely awful hybrid bit which is a kimblewick but instead of a port it had a snaffle link. In some ways it was fortunate that she didn't know how it was supposed to work.The curb chain hooks were missing from the holes. She had the reins on the cheekpiece rings and the cheekpieces coming out of the bottom rein slots (now top). I asked if the bit or bridle were for sale( because I was going to take the awful bit home and destroy it). She said no she rides her horse in it. I said 'do you know this bit is upside down?' She didn't believe me. When I persisted she said 'I have a fyord and he doesn't care what is in his mouth'. I tried to show her how the bit was milled to sit in the mouth just one way but she wasn't having any of it.
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post #66 of 647 Old 09-12-2010, 08:13 PM
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I have to say I agree, but many people know well I am stuck in a situation where I do not have control over the bitting of the horses I ride despite the fact that I hate it.
One thing does bother me. Today I went to a horse show and I saw a long lost friend who had become snooty thanks to being on her fancy horses that she clearly rides so much better because they cost more. The first thing she said to me was "Hey! Wow...You've really become cruel. You're using a gag? You're a horrible person." I proceeded to tell her that it wasn't my choice. She persisted, telling me how much better she was as a rider because she used a plain snaffle. I wanted to tell her how badly I wanted to train my horse to go in a french link, but she simply walked away...Rather snootily. When she was warming up her horse, it wouldn't listen to her one bit. Does she know that you still have to train horses to get them to listen? I commend her on not resorting to a harsher bit to solve her problems, but at least TRAIN your horse once you do!
I'm in a pretty sour mood because of this and the show getting rained out, I don't want to rain (no pun intended?) on your little snaffle parade. People bashing gags all the time gets me down a little, so I thought I'd share my side.

...In no way do I encourage anyone to disregard this thread. It is a lovely post.
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post #67 of 647 Old 09-12-2010, 08:37 PM
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^ The reason people "bash" gags and other strong bits is because many people use them to cover up training problems, or don't use them properly.
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Exactly. I wasn't bashing all bits, just stating that something harsher than a snaffle only has it's place in the hands of someone who actually knows how and why to use it.

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post #69 of 647 Old 09-12-2010, 08:46 PM
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Exactly. I wasn't bashing all bits, just stating that something harsher than a snaffle only has it's place in the hands of someone who actually knows how and why to use it.
I was trying not to insinuate that you were, though often people promoting snaffles turns into that.
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post #70 of 647 Old 09-17-2010, 12:11 AM
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My username is kind of a disclaimer but...I've noticed horses make a HUGE change after the bit comes out of their mouth. Have any of you people having issues with horses responding tried a well placed hackamore? The horse calms down and is more willing. They actually THINK and have to make decisions as opposed to react to a yanking on their mouth. Just something to think about.
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